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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: blackironprison.com
« on: May 22, 2007, 06:44:03 pm »
Probably, maybe, needs to be re-visited.

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Someone needs to make this into a contract-stle PDF.



:mittens:

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Stirring the Shit
« on: May 22, 2007, 06:35:25 pm »
Damn, I need to print this out & take it home.

Great expansion on the subject.

Jenne:  I think you just Starbucked the thing.  Great use of metaphor.

Now I have to pick it apart & see what the hell is really going on.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Lost Keys
« on: May 22, 2007, 06:31:54 pm »
You mean the one where I brow beat the pagan until she agreed with me?

I think it was in "paths".

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Stirring the Shit
« on: May 22, 2007, 04:13:36 pm »
I'd say it seems to be important to consistantly say that the BIP isn't necessarily about breaking free from all restraints, it's about identifying and choosing, with responsibility and knowledge of consequences.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Lost Keys
« on: May 22, 2007, 04:05:35 pm »
Which "one" do you mean?

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Lost Keys
« on: May 22, 2007, 03:55:25 pm »
I hung this poster up on one wall of mine.



:emo:

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Stirring the Shit
« on: May 22, 2007, 03:33:32 pm »
First, to answer your question, I'd say that cultural taboo comes very close.  Indoctrination from a very young age that you did not choose, and often cannot see.


Secondly, in your definition, you could say that the illusion of restriction is simply the act of denying a possibility, so you could still flip it into something positive, if you wanted.


But I like your definition.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Lost Keys
« on: May 22, 2007, 03:27:09 pm »
Yeah, I get it.

To me, it becomes an issue of responsibility.  Once you see the bars, and once you know that a lot of them are there by choice, then it becomes your responsibility to choose and maintain the cell you want to have.  If you want it to be one of fun and joy, that's up to you.  If you want to ride the gallows humor of paranoia to the bleak gutter, that's also up to you.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: No subject was filled in
« on: May 22, 2007, 02:59:09 pm »
You just wanted to use the word "knobwad".

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Lost Keys
« on: May 22, 2007, 02:58:43 pm »
No, it's cool.

I understand that the terminology can be a bit of a downer, which is where the GSP came from.

I'm just saying that if we agree on the concepts, and you have a "happier" metaphor, you should share & expand on it.

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Part 2

Quote from: Dags
So if anyone's reality is validated as being true within the BIP meta-structure (as it were) then basically anything goes!
Quote from: LMNO
You know Im gonna ask you to define truth, right?

Right.

In the context of how I said it; 'true' is anyone's version of reality however they go about validating it. Whereas 'false' normally would be a worldview that is riddled with BS. (noted this is posted on an discordian forum.-heh)

First off, Id make a distinction between a scientific truth and a cultural truth.  A scientific truth holds up no matter what your BIP is shaped like.  Gravity, for instance.

A cultural truth would be the place where peoples BIP overlap.  Please see the diagram below:


While each of these four individuals have unique BIPs (identified by color), they all agree/filter the same things (identified in black).

In this way, a cultural truth can be considered more of an agreement, and could easily lead to game rules that solidify these agreements into some sort of law.

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If taken to mean 'truth' then maybe in the sense of the 'truth according to Garp or Joe or Dags or LMNO or whoever' arise contradictions about reality then what? All are true and none false? I know this presents a dichotomy but it's about nothing specific where other options may present themselves such as differences of perspective and such. 

If I understand what you said, when conflicts of truth arise, the first thing that should be done is to figure out what kind of truth youre referring to.  If its scientific, then the answer can possibly be achieved through experiment and observation.

If its cultural, then the conflict might be resolved by assessing the merits of both using parameters such as usefulness, beauty, efficiency, logical cohesion, or lail (entirely according to a specific situation of course).  Often, both ideas can be true, and also exist together (giving you the third option you seemed to be searching for).

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Regarding the truth of BIP is it taken at face value? Without much questioning it's underlying assumptions. The first HIP took a look at a dissemination process where it's accepted without question as 'being cool'. Is 'accepted without questioning' what BIP is about? So what could make BIP false or an interpretation of BIP false? If it's nothing much then what does that say?

THE BIP IS ALWAYS TRUE.


Heh.

Actually, Im just describing a metaphor for an idea about how people process the information they receive.  Its not scientific, so I suppose its more or less cultural.  Can it be false?  I suppose, if you think that your brain processes things differently.  Can there be a false interpretation of the BIP?  Yes, because the BIP contains certain agreed-upon game rules, loose as they may be.  See Sillys and my discussion as an example.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Lost Keys
« on: May 22, 2007, 02:42:13 pm »

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Or Kill Me / Re: Enough
« on: May 22, 2007, 02:23:02 pm »
I consider the odd inspirations to be linked to the pattern recognition part, and the High Weirdness to be an absolute necessity if you're actually gonna try and live while thinking like this.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Lost Keys
« on: May 22, 2007, 02:20:11 pm »
I eagerly await your metaphoric dissertation.


Start a new meme on this, for Lulz' sake.

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