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Or Kill Me / Re: Biblie Busting vs. Darwin Deconstructing
« on: July 10, 2008, 05:12:38 pm »
Rat, while your statement is true, it also seems to have little application in regards to my overall comment.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Oh No You Fucking Don't!!!
« on: July 10, 2008, 05:10:38 pm »
BECUZ OZON IZ THREE OCKSEEGEN MOLECYULZ!
   \
:mullet:

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Science is a process.  It is a method.  It is a verb.

Booty, stop treating it like a noun.

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Or Kill Me / Re: all the words get in the way
« on: July 10, 2008, 05:01:09 pm »
I didn't understand a word of it, actually.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Biblie Busting vs. Darwin Deconstructing
« on: July 10, 2008, 04:45:16 pm »

I would like to point out though that you are equivocating about faith though.  In a religious context faith means "the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."  Or as Twain said, faith is "believing what you know ain't so."  It's a belief in something without evidence (or usually, in direct opposition to the evidence).  In a scienctific sense faith could mean "complete confidence" or "a strong trust".  I will admit to having a strong trust in the scientific method being the best way to learn things about the universe around us.  Because there is tangible evidence that the scientific method works. It produces solid objective and repeatable results and has a process for self-correction.  Religion can't say the same thing.


This is a very good point, one often overlooked because many people think that "semantics" is a dirty word.

Religious Faith often has a very different definition than Scientific Faith.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Cain's realpolitik corner
« on: July 09, 2008, 08:46:41 pm »
 :kingmeh:

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Or Kill Me / Re: Biblie Busting vs. Darwin Deconstructing
« on: July 09, 2008, 08:03:22 pm »
Oh, really?

The OP talked about Creation Theory vs Evolution.

Not "people who conclude CT is better" vs "people who conclude Evol is better".


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Or Kill Me / Re: Biblie Busting vs. Darwin Deconstructing
« on: July 09, 2008, 07:45:30 pm »
Don't bother, Vene.  They're not talking about scientists.  Or science, even.
But, I like talking about science.  It's one of the few things I know well.

Me too, but all you'll get from them are examples of monkeys trying to use science to prove their dogma.  It can get frustrating.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Biblie Busting vs. Darwin Deconstructing
« on: July 09, 2008, 07:40:32 pm »
Don't bother, Vene.  They're not talking about scientists.  Or science, even.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Biblie Busting vs. Darwin Deconstructing
« on: July 09, 2008, 07:13:18 pm »
So basically, y'all are talking about two packs of monkeys, each with dogmatic beliefs; rather than talking to the humans who realize that evolution is a scientific model that may change if given new evidence, and the humans who realize that religion is a series of archetype stories and resonant metaphors.

It's too easy to pit monkeys against monkeys; start writing things for humans to use, kthnxbye.

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Principia Discussion / Re: "The Number 23"
« on: July 09, 2008, 06:50:30 pm »
"No, Jim Carey, YOU are the killer."

And Jim Carey was the killer.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Dianetics.org
« on: July 09, 2008, 06:04:45 pm »
So are the Sally Struthers, the Mormons, and Madison Avenue.


What's your point?

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: A thought on a few core ideas.
« on: July 09, 2008, 05:40:20 pm »
I suppose it's a similar thing in physics, one of scale v. usability - but it kind of flip flops around, in terms of Discord.

I mean, physicists will assert that the universe is built on probability waves*, and that chaos and entropy reign supreme, but they also can accurately calculate where a spaceship (and most objects in the galaxy) will be 20 years from now.  So it becomes a matter of which is more pragmatic; the theory that all is Chaos, or the formula F = m(dv/dt)?

Conversely/similarly, Some of us advocate Think for Yourself, while asserting that most of us are predicitable sheep, but that Black Swans happen.


I suppose the Eristic/Aneristic may be illusions, but they are very useful illusions, while the "All is Chaos" idea really doesn't help that much.  So why even bring it up?



















*I know, I know, I'm making huge generalizations.  Shut it.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Biblie Busting vs. Darwin Deconstructing
« on: July 09, 2008, 05:27:37 pm »
Creationisn and Evolution are equal in that

  • Both have 'evidence' that backs up the 'facts'
  • Both sides think that the other's evidence is bunk

Creationists have evidence God created Humans?

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Discordian Recipes / Re: Peppery Chicken Boobs
« on: July 09, 2008, 05:21:04 pm »
I've been all up on arugula and other field greens lately. Some of them taste like dirt, but I need the fiber.  :|

You need to wash them, usually.

Heh.  Kidding.  To mitigate the dirt flavor, use garlic, hot peppers, and lemon juice/vinegar.

Also, if you can find them, flax seeds are a great source of fiber and Omega-3 oils.  toast up a Tablespoon or so and sprinkle on yr salads.  nice nutty flavor, and good for you, too.

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