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That's something, but I also can't help think that, no matter what, this is "too little, too late".  If it had been leaked in October, or even before the Electoral College vote in December, this could have had an impact.

Now?  I don't know if there is anything that can be done, short of impeachment (which I don't see happening without absolute evidence).

They brought Bill Clinton to trial for less

Other than that we can only hope that he gets covertly assassinated by the intelligence agencies he's shown so much disdain for.

Yeah, but Clinton wasn't their own party.  It was politically expedient to do that...whereas many Republicans ended up (reluctantly) backing Trump.  It's egg on their face if it turns out he was a patsy for the FSB all along.

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So this is interesting; on one of the memos dated September 14th, Steele (and/or associates) said 'kompromat' on Clinton, via emails, would be released after the Duma elections in Russia. 3 weeks later, Wikileaks via APT 28 published the Podesta emails.

Coincidence?  Maybe...but there's a hell of a lot of coincidences piling up here.  The document even referred to the material on Clinton being leaked via a "plausibly deniable" channel...which was also the phrase used by an informant in reference to Wikileaks and their publishing of the DNC hack.

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That's something, but I also can't help think that, no matter what, this is "too little, too late".  If it had been leaked in October, or even before the Electoral College vote in December, this could have had an impact.

Now?  I don't know if there is anything that can be done, short of impeachment (which I don't see happening without absolute evidence).

Incidentally, I was reading a doctorate paper on the Russian far-right, from 2007, and this amused: "The strictures of the various pan-national institutions—e.g. those of the EU, NATO, OSCE, Council of Europe etc.—covering Western Europe in general are such that a coherent implementation of radically nationalist policies would be difficult to accomplish even if such a politician could rely on the support of the majority of his (less probable: her) people. Moreover, the post-war economic boom in Western Europe as well as its “nuclear umbrella” supplied by the United States have been major factors in providing longterm affluence, international security and political stability."

That reads to me as "if I were a fascist who wanted to implement far-right politics in the EU, I would undermine the EU, NATO and US military guarantees to Europe in time of an economic crisis".  And lo and behold...

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That is, unfortunately, the way of Dugin.  Postmodernism by arguing there are no essential truths, but civilization specific (ie; Russian) truths, traditionalist in his support for the Orthodox Church, chaos magic in terms of his aesthetics and, well, I think we covered the fascist angle well enough.

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Oh yeah, he's basically a postmodern traditionalist with a bit of chaos magic and a lot of fascism thrown into the mix.

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For the most part, they've bent the knee.  How much of it is rank opportunism is anyone's guess, but I wouldn't hold my breath for impeachment unless the Dems take back Congress (and even then, I wouldn't place money on it).

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Beyond the wall / Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
« on: January 11, 2017, 02:33:27 pm »
Event Horizon was definitely creepy in places, and I also have a soft spot for it, but damn it's not shlocky as all hell in places.

Alien, however, is a masterpiece. 

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Yeah, people are focusing way too much on the watersports thing.

They should be focusing on the claim that the Trump campaign had sustained, purposeful contact with the Russian government at the highest levels.  That's the meat, and if it's true...

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4chan's /pol/ is disinformation central.  The only entry in the dossier after the date they sent that story to Rick Wilson is a piece dealing with Trump's lawyer being in Prague.

I'm not saying I believe this report either.  It's raw human intelligence without corroboration or analysis...but I'd find this report's findings more worthy of investigation than 4chan's /pol/, who are currently discussing how to use fake news to bring down Merkel's government and set up fake twitter accounts to exacerbate racial tensions within the Democratic Party.

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Well, here's some dirt.  This dossier alleges full cooperation between Trump and the Russian regime, golden showers and other fun stuff.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.pdf

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Beyond the wall / Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
« on: January 10, 2017, 05:50:09 pm »
I said please.

Exactly, my boss would never say that.

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The NNSA are denying the story, so we will have to wait and see on that.  However it is definitely true for all of Obama's ambassadorial picks.

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I know a lot of people who are freaking out about this because of Mantrumpian Candidate theories, and to an extent I can't blame them.

That said, I think this is about purging and loyalty, with added leverage for his appointees.  He's clearing out everything to the point that Congress will have to rubber-stamp his candidates just to get government working again.  Clearing out critical appointees like this just gives him an even better position for getting his wanted people in (and Trump thinks he is a brilliant negotiator, remember).

As for who those appointees will be...well, that will tell us more about what Trump is.

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Nothing to see here

http://gizmodo.com/trump-just-dismissed-the-people-in-charge-of-maintainin-1790908093

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According to an official within the Department of Energy, this past Friday, the President-elect’s team instructed the head of the National Nuclear Security Administration and his deputy to clean out their desks when Trump takes office on January 20th.

The NNSA is the $12 billion-a-year agency that “maintains and enhances the safety, security, and effectiveness of the U.S. nuclear weapons stockpile.” It’s unclear when the two officials will be replaced.

Traditionally, all political appointees of an outgoing presidential administration turn in resignation letters effective on noon of inauguration day, January 20. But appointees in key positions—like the people who make sure our nukes work—are often asked to stay on in their roles until a replacement can be found and confirmed by the Senate, helping ensure a smooth transition and allowing our government to continue functioning.

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And if this doesn't convince you that there is an unholy mix of populist/right-radical/neo-fascist traditionalism and internet jackassery, then nothing will



(Incidentally, Breitibart have been running a fake news story about a church in Dortmund being burned down by roving Islamic gangs from Syria.  Meanwhile, /pol/ is cranking out memes to circumvent German anti-Nazi laws in support of AfD, a party aligned with Putin's own United Russia).

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