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I've just realised one of my modules is essentially a bookclub for discussing the new University think tank's director's book on countering terrorism.

I mean, it's not a bad book, and though he gets certain minor details wrong or omits them from his account (like the British Army being brought in because the trust in the RUC was so low that Republicans actually trusted the military more, at least initially), his overall jist is one I can agree with.

But still. 

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Shootings in Canada
« on: October 22, 2014, 06:12:13 pm »
A gunman also entered the Canadian Parliament, fired several shots.

Not sure if its the same gunman, or if the gunman had accomplices.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Shootings in Canada
« on: October 22, 2014, 04:57:48 pm »
BBC News has managed to say "we don't know what is happening" for 20 minutes straight.  It's kinda impressive...or would be, except it is Frank Gardner saying it, and he has all the presence of mind of a concussed duckling, and about as much understanding of "security issues".

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It was awesome enough to inspire possibly my most favourite story in all journalistic history

http://www.destructoid.com/daily-mail-thinks-fallout-3-artwork-is-terrorist-propaganda-88282.phtml

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I was hoping that might've been a Fallout 4 promotional poster.

The 2008 promotional art for Fallout 3 was amazing:


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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: October 22, 2014, 03:08:22 pm »
In fact, some helpful Labour party opposition researcher, uh, political pundit, has helpfully drawn up a list for us

http://politicalhackuk.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/david-cameron-confidence-indicator.html

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: October 22, 2014, 03:06:40 pm »
Didn't Cameron also have "full confidence" in Andy Coulson?

More interestingly, she dined with Lord Brittan quite frequently.  Brittan, of course, was handed numerous dossiers in the 1980s about pedophile rings in Parliament, though the quality of said dossiers is...open to question (at least one is outright batshit insane).

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: October 22, 2014, 09:28:56 am »
The Mighty Wurlitzer plays on, as always.

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"The CIA currently maintains a network of several hundred foreign individuals around the world who provide intelligence for the CIA and at times attempt to influence opinion through the use of covert propaganda. These individuals provide the CIA with direct access to a large number of newspapers and periodicals, scores of press services and news agencies, radio and television stations, commercial book publishers, and other foreign media outlets."

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: October 22, 2014, 07:48:46 am »
And in other shady intelligence news, it looks like a new film about Gary Webb's life is going to be used to whitewash the CIA's involvement in the media campaign to undermine his credibility, which caused him to lose his job and ultimately commit suicide.

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/10/16/kill-the-messenger-rare-truth-telling/

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A recently released CIA document on how the counterattack against Webb was promoted is revealing in this regard. Entitled “Managing a Nightmare: CIA Public Affairs and the Drug Conspiracy Story,” the six-page internal report. described the CIA’s damage control in the wake of the publication of Webb’s story.

The report showed how the spy agency’s PR team exploited relationships with mainstream journalists who then essentially did the CIA’s work for it, mounting a devastating counterattack against Webb that marginalized him and painted the Contra-cocaine trafficking story as some baseless conspiracy theory.

Crucial to that success, the report credits “a ground base of already productive relations with journalists and an effective response by the Director of Central Intelligence’s Public Affairs Staff [that] helped prevent this story from becoming an unmitigated disaster.”

The Agency convinced friendly journalists to characterize Webb’s series as presenting “no real news, in that similar charges were made in the 1980’s and were investigated by the Congress and were found to be without substance.” That, of course, was a lie. In fact, Kerry’s investigation confirmed many of the Contra-cocaine allegations first reported by Parry and Barger for the Associated Press.

According to the CIA’s “Managing a Nightmare” report, journalists were advised to read Webb’s series critically and the CIA considered the initial attack by the Washington Post the key moment in blunting Webb’s story. The CIA distributed the negative stories to other members of the press.

From there, other papers refused to pick up Webb’s articles, but they often carried the articles attacking him. The CIA’s report noted that the tide of the public relations battle had fully turned by October and soon became a rout. Even the American Journalism Review, which – like similar publications – is supposed to stand up for honest journalists under fire, instead joined the all-out charge against Webb.

The Agency crowed how easy it was to work with journalists to first blunt and then turn around this negative national security story.

Also read this for an explanation of how everyone's favourite media outlet of fearless truthsearching and Fighting The Power, First Look Media, is aiding in the current whitewash:  http://ohtarzie.wordpress.com/2014/10/02/the-intercepts-ryan-devereaux-is-no-gary-webb/#rssowlmlink

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: October 22, 2014, 07:44:57 am »
The bar for attempted terrorism is notoriously low nowadays.

Procuring knives and a single gun and talking about shooting police officers or possibly soldiers is proof of a "Mumbai style-attack" which requires the courts be given full secrecy in trying the terrorists, for example (note: this is not a joke, but the very real reasoning of the UK Crown Prosecution, intelligence services and government in an ongoing UK case).

Canada also has its own shady past involving Islamists.  Been reading Kurt Eichenwald's 500 Days during my work breaks recently, and he talks in length about how Canadian Intelligence are both extremely paranoid and very inclined to put the screws to anyone they think could be a terrorist.  Which is practically anyone unfortunate enough to end up in their line of sight.  Eichenwald's a mainstream, NYT style establishment journalist, so if he gives the impression that these people are awful, they probably are.

If Canadian Intelligence has switched to FBI style provocations, don't be too surprised if this turns out to be a former target of theirs (though given the nature of what occured, I doubt they will ever admit it).  Sounds more like an extreme mental breakdown brought on by stress than an actually thought out and carefully planned act of political violence.

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Sadly, the argument is going in the direction of "reality is only perception" and "conciousness is not a physical aspect".

Right this minute, I'd like to feed fuckers like that into the choppy grindy burny machine.

Which is actually a thing.

But does the choppy grindy burny machine have a consciousness that exists in the "real" world?

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You are so much more amusing than the Philosophy 101 I'm dealing with.

"Physics is the science of how matter and energy interact. That speaks very little to consciousness, and is still reductionist/rationalist/materialist, which speak even less to consciousness. The physical world (I still don't like calling it "world") may be amplitudes in configuration space as far as you and physics are concerned, but consciousness isn't. Ergo, if your reality is physical in nature, consciousness cannot be reality."

Oh wow, hahah.  Argument through assertion and conflation.  "Consciousness isn't part of reality.  Nothing more to say, reductionist pig."

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"My perception is that your argument is bullshit.  Since most people agree with this perception, you'll find that this actually exerts a very real influence on the collective subconscious, thus turning reality into a mostly empirical construct."

Pwn3d!!12! etc.

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I counter with "my resignation letter finally has a response, 6 days after I sent it" and "I'm arguing with nerds about health regen".

Which isn't strictly a counter, but whatever.

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The Trickster accesses your shadow psyche, compelling you.

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