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Started by P3nT4gR4m, November 06, 2006, 10:16:47 AM

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Quote from: triple zero on November 06, 2006, 11:49:46 PM
wait a minute, in fact this rant is pretty much the opposite of that apathy-rant you wrote a while ago! care to explain that?

Balance  :-D

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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East Coast Hustle

Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 07, 2006, 05:14:12 AM
I agree new mediums such as youtube and other websites could serve as a crippling blow to the mass media, but the trick is turning the masses on to such an extreme, or at least different, type of program.

I disagree. I think the trick would be to keep any sort of "underground" medium from being co-opted by the CoN (and their money) the minute they sense a potential threat. All the truly successful "media revolutionaries" just get bought out. Who amog us is willing to turn down that kind of wealth in favor of continuing to advance our agenda in the face of increasingly stiff resistance to our attempts at "spreading the message"?
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 07, 2006, 01:04:07 PM
Who amog us is willing to turn down that kind of wealth in favor of continuing to advance our agenda in the face of increasingly stiff resistance to our attempts at "spreading the message"?

Me for one and prolly a whole bunch of others too.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
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Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
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Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

LMNO


Messier Undertree

 :lol:






Seriously, I like to think that I'd be all righteous and stuff, but honestly...

I just don't know.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: LMNO on November 07, 2006, 03:13:01 PM
Bullshit.

Theoretically perhaps. I'm already ludicrously wealthy. What do I need money for? Gave that shit up years ago.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

DJRubberducky

Quote from: SillyCybin on November 07, 2006, 01:58:52 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 07, 2006, 01:04:07 PM
Who amog us is willing to turn down that kind of wealth in favor of continuing to advance our agenda in the face of increasingly stiff resistance to our attempts at "spreading the message"?

Me for one and prolly a whole bunch of others too.

Oh, you say that now, but then you'll start arguing with yourself about how if you take the money, if you sign their contracts, whatever, you'll suddenly have the power to take your message to people you couldn't reach before.

If I were to somehow become this songwriting genius with reams of jailbreak lyrics, and someone were to promise me national exposure and decent compensation if I would just change one line here and a couple of words there, I know that it would be a very hard decision for me.  I would be sitting there quite honestly wondering if I'd finally found my way into the guts of the Machine, and if it might really be possible to still spread the message I want to spread while making the PTB happy.

Sitting where I am now, I "know better".  I know that if I were to try and strike such a compromise, it would require burying my true meanings under a layer or two of metaphor and poetry, which would make them completely inaccessible to 90% of my potential audience (and that's probably a low estimate).  But sitting where I am now, I am under no illusions of possible success.  Put me into that illusion and things get a lot less certain.
- DJRubberducky
Quote from: LMNODJ's post is sort of like those pills you drop into a glass of water, and they expand into a dinosaur, or something.

Black sheep are still sheep.

LMNO

Quote from: SillyCybin on November 07, 2006, 03:26:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 07, 2006, 03:13:01 PM
Bullshit.

Theoretically perhaps. I'm already ludicrously wealthy. What do I need money for? Gave that shit up years ago.



Hey, I've got a paypal account.  Why don't you send me $500?

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: LMNO on November 07, 2006, 03:37:08 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 07, 2006, 03:26:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 07, 2006, 03:13:01 PM
Bullshit.

Theoretically perhaps. I'm already ludicrously wealthy. What do I need money for? Gave that shit up years ago.

Hey, I've got a paypal account. Why don't you send me $500?

What bit didn't you get? I have no money. Don't need it. Wealth is material and spiritual. Sounds like you're still caught up in that paper collecting thing - get into crack, it's less addictive.

We all have our temptations and we all either overcome or succumb to them. I think it's fairly bizarre that so many of you can be convinced of how I would react to a large cash incentive without even really knowing me. Speak for yourselves guys.

Personally I had a shitload of cash at one point, big house, fast car, drugs on tap. Lost the lot and never felt motivated to get it back. Happier without. Also I don't really care about changing the world beyond the fact that I find the concept amusing right now. This aint a holy crusade I'm on.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
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Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Cain

Bits of paper help me get what I really need.  Unfortunately, most people I know aren't into the barter economy and hitting people until they give me what I want is distasteful.

LMNO

Quote from: LMNO on November 07, 2006, 03:37:08 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 07, 2006, 03:26:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 07, 2006, 03:13:01 PM
Bullshit.

Theoretically perhaps. I'm already ludicrously wealthy. What do I need money for? Gave that shit up years ago.



Hey, I've got a paypal account.  Why don't you send me $500?



Please to be using past tense if currently living like a bum.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2006, 03:50:24 PM
Bits of paper help me get what I really need.  Unfortunately, most people I know aren't into the barter economy and hitting people until they give me what I want is distasteful.

I'm still involved in currency to that extent but that's a lifestyle choice. I'm more than capable of hunting, clothing and housing myself without having to resort to capitalism. The tricky bit for me is like pontoon - stick or twist. It's easy to earn enough to satisfy my needs but wants have a way of spiralling out of control. I try to limit myself to having nothing in the bank at the end of each month otherwise it becomes a real problem for me.

My point is I honestly feel that if I had a million dollars I would have a whole world of shit on my hands. This impression is based on how much worse my life was when I was earning about a 10th of that. It was an incredibly hollow existence. All I ever wanted was more. Now I have far less and all I ever seem to want is what I got.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

LMNO

Quote from: SillyCybin on November 07, 2006, 04:08:34 PM

I'm still involved in currency to that extent but that's a lifestyle choice. I'm more than capable of hunting, clothing and housing myself without having to resort to capitalism.



O RLY?


SRSLY?




LMNO
-Here we go again...

Cain

So long as my basic needs are looked after, I'm pretty sorted.  Broadband access, a second drive for music, enough shelf space for books and being able to eat and sleep are pretty much all my needs.  It would be nice to have a 5 bedroom house and two cars, but I'm not going to work myself to a heart attack in pursuit of that.

That said, I'm not adverse to creating revolutionary groups to overthrow precarious regimes and being gratefully thanked by the populace with a state pension and lodgings for the rest of my natural life either.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: LMNO on November 07, 2006, 04:13:25 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 07, 2006, 04:08:34 PM

I'm still involved in currency to that extent but that's a lifestyle choice. I'm more than capable of hunting, clothing and housing myself without having to resort to capitalism.



O RLY?


SRSLY?




LMNO
-Here we go again...

Is that so hard to believe?
Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2006, 04:13:58 PM
So long as my basic needs are looked after, I'm pretty sorted. Broadband access, a second drive for music, enough shelf space for books and being able to eat and sleep are pretty much all my needs. It would be nice to have a 5 bedroom house and two cars, but I'm not going to work myself to a heart attack in pursuit of that.

That said, I'm not adverse to creating revolutionary groups to overthrow precarious regimes and being gratefully thanked by the populace with a state pension and lodgings for the rest of my natural life either.

Good Man - That's what I'd describe as wealthy.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark