Aneristic Strife

[LMNO]

maybe.  a psychosomatic effect can be unconcious, and sometimes not even recognized as even happening.  To call that lazy is to use the harshest meaning of the word.


LMNO
-knows it takes a hell of a lot of self-analysis to figure out all of one's psychological snafus.

[B_M_W]

maybe.  a psychosomatic effect can be unconcious, and sometimes not even recognized as even happening.  To call that lazy is to use the harshest meaning of the word.


LMNO
-knows it takes a hell of a lot of self-analysis to figure out all of one's psychological snafus.

I can definatly see where the brightness of the moon at full would have psychosomatic effects. Hell, its got that effect on me, but I don't go blaming it on gravitational forces.

[AFK]

maybe.  a psychosomatic effect can be unconcious, and sometimes not even recognized as even happening.  To call that lazy is to use the harshest meaning of the word.


LMNO
-knows it takes a hell of a lot of self-analysis to figure out all of one's psychological snafus.

I guess I'm differntiating between a psychological snafu and someone who says, "Wow, There's a Full Moon, no wonder my girlfriend is being a bitch today."

[LMNO]

Never said you did, my friend.


Lately, i've been having long arguments with people about the means, rather than the ends.  Much like this thread; we can agree on the end, which seems to be evidence that the full moon has an effect on human mentality, but we cannot agree on the means.  It frustrates many of the people I talk to, because they can't separate the two things.

[AFK]

Never said you did, my friend.


Lately, i've been having long arguments with people about the means, rather than the ends.  Much like this thread; we can agree on the end, which seems to be evidence that the full moon has an effect on human mentality, but we cannot agree on the means.  It frustrates many of the people I talk to, because they can't separate the two things.

I know, sometimes I differentiate in my head and forget to express it.  (I can't tell you how many times that has gotten me into trouble with my wife.)

[Cain]

Considering if this was conscious though, then the potential is huge.  Not for the moon fixation thing, but in general.

Of course, I'm not telling you all anything new here, just pointing this out.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I think where I was going with the moon thing, before we got into teh 'how reality works' issues. Is that it's something you can opt to do. By sync-ing whichever aspects of your psyche or physiology with the lunar cycle you break down your existence to 28-day patterns of activity and rest & recouperation. I never said it wasn't a conscious decision. My first post on the subject stated that I used to use it. If you are into developing yourself or your situation, according to any kind of practical margiquile system then it will follow that there will be periods of 'work', balanced with periods of calm and reflection. In simplest terms you think/do a thing then you let it sink in.

The moon is merely a tried and tested 'status bar' to work with. Of course saying it the way I did is much more open to being taken the wrong way. Gonna have to try and keep a lid on this but sometimes I can't help myself. Sorry for whole debacle but it was entertaining no? At least I learned some quantum physics stuff out of it if nothing else.

[LMNO]

I think where I was going with the moon thing, before we got into the 'how reality works' issues. Is that it's something you can opt to do. By sync-ing whichever aspects of your psyche or physiology with the lunar cycle you break down your existence to 28-day patterns of activity and rest & recouperation. I never said it wasn't a conscious decision. My first post on the subject stated that I used to use it. If you are into developing yourself or your situation, according to any kind of practical margiquile system then it will follow that there will be periods of 'work', balanced with periods of calm and reflection. In simplest terms you think/do a thing then you let it sink in.

The moon is merely a tried and tested 'status bar' to work with. Of course saying it the way I did is much more open to being taken the wrong way. Gonna have to try and keep a lid on this but sometimes I can't help myself. Sorry for whole debacle but it was entertaining no? At least I learned some quantum physics stuff out of it if nothing else.

Lately, i've been having long arguments with people about the means, rather than the ends.  Much like this thread; we can agree on the end, which seems to be evidence that the full moon has an effect on human mentality, but we cannot agree on the means.  It frustrates many of the people I talk to, because they can't separate the two things.

[Starship, take me]

Thanks, Starship.  I knew there must be someone here who knew the math.

No prob.  I may not be a theoretical physicist anytime soon, but I can hack algebra.

As for the "psychosomatic theory", just remember that for generations of humans a night with a full moon was the best time to hunt.  The extra light helped people track animals, many of whom are nocturnal.  Many religious rites of Real Pagans^TM were centered around the full moon.  This long-ingrained behavior may still have effects on people today.  I might google for some empirical evidence later.

[Cain]

I've also heard a similar thing, but posed in the opposite way - that people may become nervous because the extra light in what is otherwise a dark environment makes the monkey part of their brain go "danger! danger!"  Because of course, humans aren't always the hunter....

[Jenne]

Huh.  That makes more sense to me put in that way, Cain.

[Starship, take me]

I might google for some empirical evidence later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_moon
http://brightsurf.com/news/headlines/17516/Earthquakes_Happen_at_Full_Moon.html
http://brightsurf.com/news/headlines/20495/Beach_pollution_is_worst_during_new_and_full_moon.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/05/040526065332.htm

And, the best one:
http://skepdic.com/fullmoon.html



Somehow, I was reminded of that image while googling and typing this post.
Logic can act as a great explosive charge when dealing with the walls of the BIP. 
Most people here don't believe in much of the BS spread by the media, so why keep doing it?

[AFK]

bump

this is the droid we were looking for.

The moon discussion starts on page 3. 

[LMNO]

Just for the hell of it, I'm going to make one of my dialoges out fo this.

[Triple Zero]

swote.