Aneristic Strife

[B_M_W]

This thread was fun, if I remember correctly.

[Jenne]

This thread rawked.

But it ran out of steam, apparently.

[LMNO]

The part about aneristic strife is in the dumpster dive thread.

I'm planning on writing up the Moon bit, just for fun.

[AFK]

Someone who has lots of friends who would be mildly interested in this stuff, and who has a video camera, really should act some of these threads out.  Of course I have neither friends or a video camera so I'm not nominating myself.

[P3nT4gR4m]

LOL - You bastards gang raped one of my favourite bits of paradigm. No one told me there were honest to god scientists here. Yuo have no idea how many times I've won that argument. I kinda miss it now 

[LMNO]

PrincipiaDiscordia.com: Crushing your dreams, one at a time.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I had a dream once where I was fucking Bonnie Langford. SRSLY!

If you could crush that one I'd be forever grateful

[LMNO]

No, that one we'll leave as is.

[Ambassador KAOS]

PrincipiaDiscordia.com: Crushing your dreams, one at a time.

The End.

[AFK]

bump,  because the impending lunar eclipse reminded me of this one. 

[East Coast Hustle]

heh. I forgot about AKK's stupid sig.

looks like he got HIMEOBS'd in the end.

ECH,
still searching for the bastards who hacked that poor guy's account

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I think Aneristic Strife may fit as a term to describe what some called Paradox of the Absurd or Camus' Absurdism.

Something like the absurd that arises when the human need to perceive Order and Meaning meets the unreasonableness of the world, when "my appetite for the absolute and for unity" meets "the impossibility of reducing this world to a rational and reasonable principle." When someone tries to fit the facade of order too tightly to the underlying chaos. People that suddenly realize, no matter how many guns and dogs they use, Taleb's Black Swans may still show up in their local pond.

Of course, the opposite may also exist, Eristic Strife... which could describe the people that believe everything IS Chaos and then get frustrated by orderly things functioning (like our joke of a government).

This strife might simply be the state of people who have not yet grasped what Mal-2 stated:

If you can master nonsense as well as you have already learned to master sense, then each will expose the other for what it is: absurdity.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Oh my god, your Suu avatar is adorable!

[Cain]

I've always understood it as Clausewitzian "friction".  He used the term to mean all the things that happen in a war that cause the war itself to devolve from its pure (ideal or Platonic) form.  This could be logistics, psychology, technology gaps or policy aims.  Whatever it was, it caused the war to become less than total, and so less predictable about its outcome.

Aneristic Strife is the same thing, applied to order.  There is a perfect, idealized view of order held by [agent 1].  The perfect, Newtonian Universe, for example.  But when it is applied to the sloppy mess that is reality, it doesn't fit accordingly.  Quatumn effects at the sub-atomic level cause "friction" within the idealized view which, if it is not discarded, cannot be comprehended or understood.  They're using the wrong philosophical grid, or map, and so everything that falls outside of that view, if ignored, can cause "strife" to Agent 1.  The disconnect between belief and reality while not discarding that belief.

Its the answer to the 'why' of Imposition of Order = Escalation of Disorder.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I've always understood it as Clausewitzian "friction".  He used the term to mean all the things that happen in a war that cause the war itself to devolve from its pure (ideal or Platonic) form.  This could be logistics, psychology, technology gaps or policy aims.  Whatever it was, it caused the war to become less than total, and so less predictable about its outcome.

Aneristic Strife is the same thing, applied to order.  There is a perfect, idealized view of order held by [agent 1].  The perfect, Newtonian Universe, for example.  But when it is applied to the sloppy mess that is reality, it doesn't fit accordingly.  Quatumn effects at the sub-atomic level cause "friction" within the idealized view which, if it is not discarded, cannot be comprehended or understood.  They're using the wrong philosophical grid, or map, and so everything that falls outside of that view, if ignored, can cause "strife" to Agent 1.  The disconnect between belief and reality while not discarding that belief.

Its the answer to the 'why' of Imposition of Order = Escalation of Disorder.

I think that falls very close to the Camus position of "Life is Absurd" aka "Life is not predictable enough to trust"