Who is 'Us'?

[Cain]

Free market capitalism and the state are incompatible.  The only free trading that is going on anywhere now is in Somalia.  I personally prefer the protection of the state to the myriad problems of anarchy, even given the state is often my enemy the world has moved on and we now have some very deadly substate actors who can fuck you up.

Basically, so long as there is a state some companies will be favoured over others because they are critical to the safety and economy of the country in question.  When someone says free market capitalism, what they usually mean is allowing their favoured monopoolies (which they are funded by) being allowed to effectively operate outside of the law for mucho profits - all of which go into the hands of very few people, such as "Neutron" Jack.

Its a scam, one of the largest in history.  Its like the plot to bankrupt the American treasury by the Bush administration - its so big virtually no-one can see it, but its there.  Anyone who has checked the IMF's own data can see quite easily the best time, economically and in quality of life in the last 100 years was between 1950 and 1975 - an era dominated by unions, mixed economies and some protectionism.

[LMNO]

Mourn, are you equating Marxism and Totalitarianism?

As far as i know, they aren't equivalent.

Also, Ayn Rand is a cold-hearted bitch.


Also also, Cain is wikkid smaht.

[Mourning Star]

Mourn, are you equating Marxism and Totalitarianism?

As far as i know, they aren't equivalent.

Also, Ayn Rand is a cold-hearted bitch.


Also also, Cain is wikkid smaht.

no no  I was speaking of Marxism, totalitarianism, and anarchy all separately...

[Cain]

Mourn, are you equating Marxism and Totalitarianism?

As far as i know, they aren't equivalent.

In theory, no.  In practice, yes.  Marxism is a continuation of every other totalitarian ideology, it seeks to create "heaven on earth", by forcible "purification" if necessary.  Just like free market advocates, Christians, Muslims and 99% of people who think facts are subordinate to ideology.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Mourn, are you equating Marxism and Totalitarianism?

As far as i know, they aren't equivalent.

In theory, no.  In practice, yes.  Marxism is a continuation of every other totalitarian ideology, it seeks to create "heaven on earth", by forcible "purification" if necessary.  Just like free market advocates, Christians, Muslims and 99% of people who think facts are subordinate to ideology.

Whoa! You got a way with words dude! 

[LMNO]

Also also, Cain is wikkid smaht.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Also also, Cain is wikkid smaht.

Yah but he's a stoodent! WTF does he know about life in the real world I ask ya?

(bet he's never sweated down 'pit)

[AFK]

Also also, Cain is wikkid smaht.

Yah but he's a stoodent! WTF does he know about life in the real world I ask ya?

(bet he's never sweated down 'pit)

:sits down for this one:

[B_M_W]

Also also, Cain is wikkid smaht.

Yah but he's a stoodent! WTF does he know about life in the real world I ask ya?

(bet he's never sweated down 'pit)

*blink*

You might want to be careful with the way you throw your words around. Just saying.

[Cain]

Cain,
worked a door all last summer.  It was not fun.  It was shitty and the few advantages that job has I could not take, already being in a relationship.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Cain,
worked a door all last summer.  It was not fun.  It was shitty and the few advantages that job has I could not take, already being in a relationship.

Goddamn you guys are touchy tonite. You gonna make me apologise for cracking a joke? Then I'm gonna have to apologise to felix for joke apology. Chain reaction. Spend the rest of the night grovelling

Lighten up people you know me better than that.

[Cain]

No, its me.  I'm tired.  Like  said earlier, I literally fell asleep in an exam.  On terrorism, no less.  And I really did not like that job.  Bad memories.

[AFK]

Bump.  Because there was some really good stuff in this thread.  Particularly the inner pages. 

[LMNO]

Yeah, I had almost forgotten about this stuff.

[The Johnny]

I dont think you guys ever answered who is us.

Neither who is what.

But it is clear that free market and state are conflicting, and that...

What is "this"¿¿