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Started by LHX, June 24, 2007, 05:50:59 PM

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Bu🤠ns

Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2007, 07:06:54 PM
I'm not sure I find the concept of a woman with a Freddy Mercury 'stache to be aesthetically pleasing.

true. but you could get that tickle sensation AND not have to worry about  mom thinking you're ghey.

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 25, 2007, 07:10:48 PM
depends how big her breast are
seconded

LMNO

Mom already thinks I'm gay.


Or she did, before I got married.


It might have had something to do with introducing her to my boyfriend.

Bu🤠ns

Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2007, 07:19:59 PM
Mom already thinks I'm gay.


Or she did, before I got married.


It might have had something to do with introducing her to my boyfriend.

:eek: :lol:

ahh the subtle approach. ;)

as far as the moustache goes...for me it was something like .... "NO, mom, i'm NOT gay, my girl is just italian!"


Darth Cupcake

Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on June 25, 2007, 06:37:16 PM
Quote from: LHX on June 25, 2007, 05:51:49 AM


men are becoming women
women are becoming men


...


There is a problem with this?

I'd say no.

Gender is largely learned, via gender roles. So all that the above statement says to me is that gender roles are being broken down and destroyed. I'm okay with that. I fully endorse that in fact.

BMW, you are a biologist type, yes? I would be interested to hear your take on how much biology influences differences between men and women. As a fairly die-hard feminist, I tend to stand by "our biological differences are a lot smaller than people make them out to be." I do not believe that biology impacts personality (women are nurturing, men are violent kind of stereotypes; women love monogamy whereas men want to fuck everything that moves cause HEY IT'S BIOLOGY BABY); I think that's mostly social programming. I have a friend who is firmly the opposite though, and he has yet to impress me with any of the sources he can bring up to prove that kind of claim. I would be interested to hear what you have to say on the subject, if you in fact have a stance and would be willing to throw in your two cents.

Quote from: burnstoupee on June 25, 2007, 07:24:24 PM
as far as the moustache goes...for me it was something like .... "NO, mom, i'm NOT gay, my girl is just italian!"

You've been hanging out with too many post-op Italian trannies!

-DC
'stache free, along with the rest of her family and Italian ladyfriends
Be the trouble you want to see in the world.

Cramulus

#109
I agree with DC that gender roles have WAY more to do with how one is conditioned than his or her biology. This is one of those topics that I've had way too much education about, but for the moment suffice it to say


Bu🤠ns

Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 25, 2007, 07:31:56 PM
You've been hanging out with too many post-op Italian trannies!

-DC
'stache free, along with the rest of her family and Italian ladyfriends

oh fuck....i married her.

Bu🤠ns

i think fully identifying with any role can be a mistake.  allowing oneself a particular flexiblity in roles can help one adapt to any situation.

LHX

Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on June 25, 2007, 06:37:16 PM
Quote from: LHX on June 25, 2007, 05:51:49 AM


men are becoming women
women are becoming men


...


There is a problem with this?

theres no problem with it

im saying it was predicted to be one of the features of these times
neat hell

B_M_W

Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 25, 2007, 07:31:56 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on June 25, 2007, 06:37:16 PM
Quote from: LHX on June 25, 2007, 05:51:49 AM


men are becoming women
women are becoming men


...


There is a problem with this?

I'd say no.

Gender is largely learned, via gender roles. So all that the above statement says to me is that gender roles are being broken down and destroyed. I'm okay with that. I fully endorse that in fact.

BMW, you are a biologist type, yes? I would be interested to hear your take on how much biology influences differences between men and women. As a fairly die-hard feminist, I tend to stand by "our biological differences are a lot smaller than people make them out to be." I do not believe that biology impacts personality (women are nurturing, men are violent kind of stereotypes; women love monogamy whereas men want to fuck everything that moves cause HEY IT'S BIOLOGY BABY); I think that's mostly social programming. I have a friend who is firmly the opposite though, and he has yet to impress me with any of the sources he can bring up to prove that kind of claim. I would be interested to hear what you have to say on the subject, if you in fact have a stance and would be willing to throw in your two cents.

Um....

PM incoming.
One by one, we break the sheep from their Iron Bar Prisons and expand their imaginations, make them think for themselves. In turn, they break more from their prisons. Eventually, critical mass is reached. Our key word: Resolve. Evangelize with compassion and determination. And realize that there will be few in the beginning. We are hand picking our successors. They are the future of Discordianism. Let us guide our future with intelligence.

     --Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=9801.0


6.5 billion Buddhas walking around.

99.xxxxxxx% forgot they are Buddha.

Thurnez Isa

#114
I just figured out what your orginal question meant BMW

I thought you meant it in terms of parenthood, relating to the op
oops.. im an idiot
:?

so your actual answer...

not only is there is no problem with it
i encourage anything that gets people tearing down the stupid classifications we construct in order to understand ourselves

hope that makes sense
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

B_M_W

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 25, 2007, 10:15:05 PM
I just figured out what your orginal question meant BMW

I thought you meant it in terms of parenthood, relating to the op
oops.. im an idiot
:?

so your actual answer...

not only is there is no problem with it
i encourage anything that gets people tearing down the stupid classifications we construct in order to understand ourselves

hope that makes sense

Thanks. I really apreciate it.

But I'm still looking for X's answer. You see, I don't see how transgender individuals being "a sign of the times" has anything to do with poor parenting. And I'd like an explanation. Its really not asking much. I'd just like clarification.
One by one, we break the sheep from their Iron Bar Prisons and expand their imaginations, make them think for themselves. In turn, they break more from their prisons. Eventually, critical mass is reached. Our key word: Resolve. Evangelize with compassion and determination. And realize that there will be few in the beginning. We are hand picking our successors. They are the future of Discordianism. Let us guide our future with intelligence.

     --Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=9801.0


6.5 billion Buddhas walking around.

99.xxxxxxx% forgot they are Buddha.

B_M_W

Quote from: LHX on June 25, 2007, 08:38:43 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on June 25, 2007, 06:37:16 PM
Quote from: LHX on June 25, 2007, 05:51:49 AM


men are becoming women
women are becoming men


...


There is a problem with this?

theres no problem with it

im saying it was predicted to be one of the features of these times

And what does that have to do with poor parenting, may I ask?
One by one, we break the sheep from their Iron Bar Prisons and expand their imaginations, make them think for themselves. In turn, they break more from their prisons. Eventually, critical mass is reached. Our key word: Resolve. Evangelize with compassion and determination. And realize that there will be few in the beginning. We are hand picking our successors. They are the future of Discordianism. Let us guide our future with intelligence.

     --Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=9801.0


6.5 billion Buddhas walking around.

99.xxxxxxx% forgot they are Buddha.

hunter s.durden

Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 25, 2007, 07:31:56 PM
As a fairly die-hard feminist, I tend to stand by "our biological differences are a lot smaller than people make them out to be." I do not believe that biology impacts personality (women are nurturing, men are violent kind of stereotypes; women love monogamy whereas men want to fuck everything that moves cause HEY IT'S BIOLOGY BABY); I think that's mostly social programming. I have a friend who is firmly the opposite though, and he has yet to impress me with any of the sources he can bring up to prove that kind of claim. I would be interested to hear what you have to say on the subject, if you in fact have a stance and would be willing to throw in your two cents.
I disagree with something in this.
But I can't go into in right now.
Just sayin'.
This space for rent.

B_M_W

Darth Cupcake, would you be willing to yield to the statement, "Biology impacts personality.

But no where near as much as culture, nurture, and society."

?

Because thats where I sum it up. Even coming from where I am.
One by one, we break the sheep from their Iron Bar Prisons and expand their imaginations, make them think for themselves. In turn, they break more from their prisons. Eventually, critical mass is reached. Our key word: Resolve. Evangelize with compassion and determination. And realize that there will be few in the beginning. We are hand picking our successors. They are the future of Discordianism. Let us guide our future with intelligence.

     --Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=9801.0


6.5 billion Buddhas walking around.

99.xxxxxxx% forgot they are Buddha.

LHX

Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on June 25, 2007, 11:48:54 PM
Quote from: LHX on June 25, 2007, 08:38:43 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on June 25, 2007, 06:37:16 PM
Quote from: LHX on June 25, 2007, 05:51:49 AM


men are becoming women
women are becoming men


...


There is a problem with this?

theres no problem with it

im saying it was predicted to be one of the features of these times

And what does that have to do with poor parenting, may I ask?
because in the process of this occurring, nobody seems to be looking after the kids

ill send my staff out to compile some numbers



and what in the blazes is a 'transgender' individual?

another label for 'human'?
neat hell