Motherhood

[B_M_W]

how in the sweet mother of fuck is being 'successful' working in a company and climbing a corporate ladder more enriching than raising and nurturing a child?


how exactly did women get tricked into persuing 'career goals'?


i am going to answer my own question and say that men shouldnt have disrespected women throughout the years because that seems to be the only root cause i can imagine

-- escape oppression by becoming as/more 'powerful' than the oppressor


but this shit is ridiculous

now there is men who still disrespect women
women who seem to be attempting to grow a johnson

and a whole army of children with approximately 0 foundation




who won?

I dissagree.

Likewise.

To keep this short because it is hot as balls out so I will start getting seriously belligerent if I don't...

"how in the sweet mother of fuck is being 'successful' working in a company and climbing a corporate ladder more enriching than raising and nurturing a child?"

Good question. Why DON'T more men stay home to raise and nurture children?

Yes.

Sorry X, you're my bro and all, but this has nothing to do with gender.

[LHX]

if anybody is reading into this that one gender is somehow less culpable than the other - it has nothing to do with anything i typed

i think a careful re-read might be the recipe


i dont know how to defend myself for something i didnt say nor intend to imply


why DONT more men stay home and nurture kids?

it is a valid question

but not within the scope of my original post


maybe i should put together a part 2 to this thread

prolly be redundant at this point

[The Good Reverend Roger]

if anybody is reading into this that one gender is somehow less culpable than the other - it has nothing to do with anything i typed



why DONT more men stay home and nurture kids?

it is a valid question



but not within the scope of my original post

So it IS about women.

[LHX]

the title of the thread is motherhood

[The Good Reverend Roger]

the title of the thread is motherhood

So it is de facto about one gender.

But you just said it wasn't.

I am confused.

[LHX]

it is about gender

it is not exaggerating the blame for foul shit in the world on one gender or the other


i will make a note never to start a thread about any one particular topic without starting a partner thread to balance the scales

[The Good Reverend Roger]

it is about gender

it is not exaggerating the blame for foul shit in the world on one gender or the other

Well, the motherhood thread says "why don't they stay home with the kids", and the fatherhood thread says "support your offspring."

Leave It To Beaver family values ITT.

i will make a note never to start a thread about any one particular topic without starting a partner thread to balance the scales

What?  You expected an easy room?  Why didn't you say so?  I can do that.  Lemme go get some mittens.

[LHX]

it is about gender

it is not exaggerating the blame for foul shit in the world on one gender or the other

Well, the motherhood thread says "why don't they stay home with the kids", and the fatherhood thread says "support your offspring."

Leave It To Beaver family values ITT.

i will make a note never to start a thread about any one particular topic without starting a partner thread to balance the scales

What?  You expected an easy room?  Why didn't you say so?  I can do that.  Lemme go get some mittens.

children suffer neglect and lack of nurturing

the corporate paper chase does not seem as fulfilling in the long run as raising a strong seed

these are the last days

men are becoming women
women are becoming men


its a shame that the most prevalent skill on forums these days is the ability to bend peoples words at will and selectively input some points that had been previously non-existant


heads been watching too much law and order


matlock and perry mason up in this mud


why doesnt anybody want to quote the points in the original post that do NOT support this fun gender-bias escapade?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

children suffer neglect and lack of nurturing

Welcome to the last 10,000 years.  Nuturing, shit.  Starting 30 years ago, and going back to prehistory, the most they got was a kick in the ass, when dad AND mom weren't too busy tending Sir Fuckalot's fields for him. 

the corporate paper chase does not seem as fulfilling in the long run as raising a strong seed

In one person's opinion.  Well, two.  You and Phyllis Schafly.  What if a woman realizes she would be a shitty mother?  Unable to "nurture"?  Should she still forget what she WANTS to do, so she can do what YOU want her to do?

these are the last days

Heard THAT song before.

men are becoming women

Oh, now you're on Ru Paul's ass?

women are becoming men

I feel a Falwell moment coming on...

its a shame that the most prevalent skill on forums these days is the ability to bend peoples words at will and selectively input some points that had been previously non-existant

Bullshit is always on a buyers market.

heads been watching too much law and order

Now you're mad at Michael Moriarity?

matlock and perry mason up in this mud

Not sure where this is going.

why doesnt anybody want to quote the points in the original post that do NOT support this fun gender-bias escapade?

Well, okay, I'll go get some mittens.

TGRR,
Will avoid questioning things in the future.

[LHX]

TGRR,
Will avoid questioning things in the future.

see man - this is what i dont understand

why do you even bother saying things like that?

as tho i have some desire for you to not question things


if it was between me and you - that would be fine, but when you say shit like that in a forum, it may make a onlooker think that i actually DO see some reason for women to be oppressed


and since that isnt the case - that turns you into nothing more than a elaborate slanderer with the gift of effectively using the english language so as not to appear as such


the man provides the sperm
the woman provides the egg

the sperm provides the spark
the egg becomes the womb that nurtures


do what you want to with that


you call humans a bunch of monkeys
but
the way shit is shaking down is a long way from monkey-dom


but im not gonna bust your balls on that

i wont use mittens - but i consider you a ally


if you notice - i generally augment your arguments rather than make it sound like you are saying the opposite

[The Good Reverend Roger]

TGRR,
Will avoid questioning things in the future.

see man - this is what i dont understand

why do you even bother saying things like that?

as tho i have some desire for you to not question things


if it was between me and you - that would be fine, but when you say shit like that in a forum, it may make a onlooker think that i actually DO see some reason for women to be oppressed


and since that isnt the case - that turns you into nothing more than a elaborate slanderer with the gift of effectively using the english language so as not to appear as such


the man provides the sperm
the woman provides the egg

the sperm provides the spark
the egg becomes the womb that nurtures


do what you want to with that


you call humans a bunch of monkeys
but
the way shit is shaking down is a long way from monkey-dom


but im not gonna bust your balls on that

i wont use mittens - but i consider you a ally


if you notice - i generally augment your arguments rather than make it sound like you are saying the opposite

Look, LHX, why don't you point out ONE (1) thing I have said concerning your post that does not reflect what you actually posted?

TGRR,
Is getting a little tired of having his intellectual honesty called into question.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

And what the fuck is up with this hippie "nurture" shit, any fucking way?

[LHX]

what in the hell is wrong with nurturing?

its nurturing vs exploiting

you take your pick

[The Good Reverend Roger]

what in the hell is wrong with nurturing?

its nurturing vs exploiting

you take your pick

False dichotomy.

There's also "neglect".   

TGRR,
Is off to bathe in some patchouli.

[LHX]

here is a list of things i didnt say

She'd be LOSING Slack,Ñ¢ if she stayed at home to raise kids she never wanted, just to keep you happy.  And hell, even if she HAD those kids, are they better off living with a mother who - however unjustifiably - blames them for the end of their career, or with a nanny?

i respect a woman not wanting kids

Could have fooled me.  Just saying.

but not wanting kids because they have been duped into pursuing some 'dynamic corporate business achievement' is one of the biggest wrong-turns in the history of this 'civilization'

So women don't know what their REAL motivations are?

No

I see.  Well, it's a good thing they have good Christian/Muslim men to tell them what they really want and need.

Break out the burkhas, people!  Daddy has a brand new bag!

Maybe they have personal drives and opinions that don't fit the June Cleaver image of women that good folks like PaT Robertson keep shoving at us.

i dont even know what a Pat Robertson is

or a Pathouli


neglect sounds like it could be indirect exploitation


just because you ignore a tooth ache doesnt mean you arent decaying


dont mistake my superhero delusions with your vendetta against hippies