YOU KNOW WHAT FUCKING BUGS ME ABOUT THIS GODDAMN CENTURY?

[rabidpigmy]

Maybe it's open, maybe it's closed. Maybe we can escape it, maybe we can't. How do we know when we're the cause of it? In reference to a Velvet Underground song, freed from one illusion...free to choose another?

I've no clue.

[The Littlest Ubermensch]

I agree with TLU, but I might also add that with time the position of power may have shifted and that guy who we think is the head is no longer the real threat. The enemies are his superiors *edited due to wrong wording*. Duh-duh-duh!

HAR HAR HAR!

WRONG AGAIN.

The president is owned by his contributors.

His contributors are corporations (Halliburton, etc).

The corporations are owned by the shareholders.

The shareholders are mostly mutual funds, etc.

The mutual funds are owned by the people that use them for retirement plans.

That's Joe 6 Pack.  You and me.

TGRR,
Has met the enemy, and he is us.

Precisely. 

This is why my rant was mostly about the People, not the president.

Which TLU chose to ignore.

Not really. Just decided to look at the part you and the entire rest of the board hadn't already gone over a billion times. I suppose it was just a bad attempt at adding content. Really shouldn't have started an argument over nothing.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

Sometimes you have to kick a dead horse to save the villagers pinned underneath it..

(Other times, it just smells funny and that makes you giggle.)

[The Littlest Ubermensch]

Sometimes you have to kick a dead horse to save the villagers pinned underneath it..

(Other times, it just smells funny and that makes you giggle.)

I suppose so. On the other hand, when the amount of material we already have is large and mostly unnoticed, why bother making new stuff unless it's doing something new? Greater distribution of the old material would have just as much of an impact as rehashing old material, with less bandwidth used.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Heh.  So I'm a waste of bandwidth.

Sorry I bothered.

[Cramulus]

It's that everything seems so goddamn GENERIC now.  Even our BAD GUYS, our monsters and criminals and politicians are all vanilla, you know, hollow and plastic.  Nixon was a man you could really HATE, for example...as opposed to the airhead we have today.

Agreed there. I mean, I don't really hate said airhead - I feel sorry for all the people that do hate him because they're wasting their time and buying the distraction.

All this politics is public theater. Like the lead character in Thank You For Smoking put it: (paraphrase) "Do we have the best government? Well, we certainly have a very entertaining government."

And the people.  Oh, go ahead and get me started on the people.  Most of them don't even know what fucking YEAR it is, anymore...and they don't CARE, so long as the teevee works and the gas station has gas and the grocery store has food.  Indeed, we are kings of creation.  Until the power fails...Then, of course, we are simply 2 legged stores of fat for aggressive coyotes.

this reminds me: I used to wear a wrist band which said "What Would Coyote Do?"

Let me say unto you that terms like "dignity" are MEANINGLESS in a society where you can get ARRESTED for saying the WRONG THING to a POLITICIAN.  Let me ALSO say that being a GOOD CITIZEN only works if you live in a GOOD SOCIETY.

Rah Rah

Who's the "good guy" in the post apocalyptic shitscape? He's picking through kipple and starving while his mates are mugging people at knifepoint.

What does the "good citizen" do in 1984?

What is "virtue" in a world of criminals-by-necessity?



Bring the fire, TGRR.

[hunter s.durden]

Agreed there. I mean, I don't really hate said airhead - I feel sorry for all the people that do hate him because they're wasting their time and buying the distraction.

You don't?

Is there anything you do hate?

[Cramulus]

Agreed there. I mean, I don't really hate said airhead - I feel sorry for all the people that do hate him because they're wasting their time and buying the distraction.

You don't?

Is there anything you do hate?

When I use the word Hate I am usually referring to things I personally interact with. Maybe I'm media-numb and desensitized, but I can't get that worked up about shit I see on the news. Even if it really irks me -- most of the time I reserve my Hate for people and things which I can actually take a swing at.


There are a few hot button issues and larger institutional things that I hate - like Top 40 music and pharmaceutical conglomerates. But I don't Hate them like I Hate, say, my deadbeat ex-flatmate who still owes me a couple hundred bucks, or my neighbor's holier-than-thou drunkard fiance. Bush? Yeah, he sucks proper, but he's just a face on a screen.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Bring the fire, TGRR.

Sorry.  There is no more fire.  We're fresh out.

TGRR,
Retired from ranting.

[DarkStar]

TGRR retired from ranting?  I am crushed.

[Payne]

I hope he returns to ranting. If he doesn't vent his hate, the world will end, and I'm not done playing in it yet.

[Jasper]

I am glad to say that my Canadian dual citizenship is set to go through soon.

[East Coast Hustle]

why on earth would you be glad about that?

srsly, I'm not busting your balls here.

well, OK, I am busting your balls but it's also a serious question. What makes you think that canada (ESPECIALLY B.C.) is any different than America when you get right down to it?

[Cain]

It can only carry out interventionist foreign policies against nations whose militaries are made up of drafted sheep-herders.

[East Coast Hustle]