Fuck Advertising

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

    "The masters, whether they be priests or kings or capitalists, when they want to exploit you, the first thing they have to do is demoralize you, and they demoralize you very simply by kicking you in the nuts. This is how it's done...This is a principle of the advertising copy writer, that he must stir up discontent in the family. Modern American advertising is aimed at the woman, who is, if not always the buyer at least the pesterer, and it is designed to create sexual discontent....But with the adult, the young married couple, which is the object of almost all advertising, the copy is pitched to stir up insatiable sexual discontent. It provides pictures of women who never existed. A guy gets in bed with his wife and she isn't like that and so he is discontented all the time and is therefore fit material for exploitation."


- Kenneth Rexroth, in an interview on The Social Lie

This pretty much sums it up.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

at starbucks, you have a large degree over- for example, how a person's day is going to be. on a relatively large scale. on top of that, there are lots of repeat costumers, so you can observe and select marks for hijinx and fun.

example: you can make a random decent person feel nice just by comping their coffee for some BS reason, which makes a small ripple of other benevolent acts around that person, etc... and the waves usually dissipate in this senario, but it's still cool.

or the opposite:
you can make someone you know is a total asshat feel like shit in a variety of ways, which adds to his attitude, which will overflow to people that will give him backlash.

...you're basically a legal drug dealer...that gives you a lot of leverage over a costumer.

just saying that you can be a wrench in the machine while working at starbucks. i have personal experience in that.

Ah to have control of all Starbucnks and then spike every cup with LSD, for just one day.....

No one would be enlightened, but I would love to see 98% of Corporate America tripping.

[LMNO]

Doesn't that violate one of Leary's rules of Acid?  "Thou shalt not dose someone without their consent," or something like that?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Doesn't that violate one of Leary's rules of Acid?  "Thou shalt not dose someone without their consent," or something like that?

Leary was a clown and a fuckwit that thought that Acid would fix everyone. There are several good arguments as to how he single-handedly brought the Wrath of the Pinks down on LSD. In principle, I agree... I would never dose a friend with Acid just for fun. However, if one was really trying to cause serious havoc in Corporate America, LSD loaded Starbucks would be a toss to rival that sweet Golden Apple up on Ol' Limbo Peak!

[LMNO]

Well, since I'm not a damn dirty hippie/Acid casualty I don't really follow his rules anyway... I just thought you might.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Well, since I'm not a damn dirty hippie/Acid casualty I don't really follow his rules anyway... I just thought you might.

Aw now come on LMNO, what sort of Discordian would I be if I was following someone else's rules?

[LMNO]

Well, since I'm not a damn dirty hippie/Acid casualty I don't really follow his rules anyway... I just thought you might.

Aw now come on LMNO, what sort of Discordian would I be if I was following someone else's rules?

The majority of 'em, apparently.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Well, since I'm not a damn dirty hippie/Acid casualty I don't really follow his rules anyway... I just thought you might.

Aw now come on LMNO, what sort of Discordian would I be if I was following someone else's rules?

The majority of 'em, apparently.

ROFL, I hope not... maybe they're like Fundie Christians and just happen to be the loudest minority?

[LHX]

is advertising the same as encouraging?

supporting?

endorsing?




these things seem to run together...


am i advertising myself with this post?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

is advertising the same as encouraging?

supporting?

endorsing?




these things seem to run together...


am i advertising myself with this post?

Depends on how fuzzy your semantic circuit is

[LHX]

depends on how fuzzy the semantic circuit is




its funny how at the end of certain stories - some of the bad guys turn out to be the good guys

and some of the good guys get wiped out because they couldnt hack it

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

depends on how fuzzy the semantic circuit is




its funny how at the end of certain stories - some of the bad guys turn out to be the good guys

and some of the good guys get wiped out because they couldnt hack it

Troof.

[hunter s.durden]

is advertising the same as encouraging?

supporting?

endorsing?




these things seem to run together...


am i advertising myself with this post?

This tied in with the point I was originally trying to make.
It went unanswered and has now been buried.

I agree with alot of things in this thread, a standout being:

when it collaborates with the media of insecurity to brainwash people into believing they "need" things in order to make them happy, rather than merely showing them a product and hoping someone out there wants it.

That said, I don't trust the government to step in and do the exact same thing, by dictating what ads I should see.

Who do I trust?
You fags.

Boycotts, word of mouth promotion, industrial sabotage... The people around me will help me make informed decisions about what I need and who is screwing me.
A government mandate declaring Nike commercials illegal is not the answer.

[LMNO]

Good point, Hunter (you fagbasket).

I'm always amazed at how blatently pandering/threatening most commercials are.  I usually think, "are people really suckered into buy this shit?"  Unfortunately, they do.

People should understand by now that commercials lie.  To be a sucker at this point is the fault of the consumer, not the advertiser.

Actually, this makes me think of something I read recently.

http://nascentideas.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/citation-needed/

Someone is printing out stickers that say:

[citation needed]

and is defacing billboards with them.  I think it's a truly awsome idea, and one that we should employ at will.

[B_M_W]

citationgasm?