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[Cramulus]

ECH, if you can fit a Camry in your ass and successfully pull it out again, plz feel free to consider it an ass-bead.

thankfully, upon a second reading, Crammy was absent from that sentence.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

If you consider a Camry to be ornamental and can get away with wearing it, you're the man.

[Cainad (dec.)]

What you masturbate to does tend to affect your rl relationships.

I could not possibly disagree more.

do you have ANY evidence to back up your claim?

Consider the following scenario:

1. Nigel's Guy® is into dead animal porn. Like, REALLY into it.

2. Nigel finds out that Nigel's Guy® likes likes dead animal porn.
2a. Nigel does not like dead animal porn.

3. Nigel now lives in fear of the day when Nigel's Guy® walks in the door one day and says, "Hey honey, look what I found on the side of the road: something we can share!"

4. Real Life relationship has now been "affected" by what someone in that relationship masturbates to.

[Jasper]

Except that NG® is aware of many social protocols that disallow such courses of action.  NG® would instead be likely to note the taboo in himself, and seek other ways to express the desire.  But of course there's a lot more psychological interplay just between N and NG® than that, too.  My point is that it is just not that cut and dry.

[LMNO]

Also:  The fantasy of fucking roadkill is (most likely) vastly different than the reality of fucking roadkill.

Hence, the use of the imagery in NG®'s masturbation sessions, and the very unlikely chance it will occur IRL.

Now, if Nigel caught NG® actually using roadkill when masturbating, that's a different story.

But that's not the point being made right now.




Also, Cramming the Camry =

[East Coast Hustle]

What you masturbate to does tend to affect your rl relationships.

I could not possibly disagree more.

do you have ANY evidence to back up your claim?

Consider the following scenario:

1. Nigel's Guy® is into dead animal porn. Like, REALLY into it.

2. Nigel finds out that Nigel's Guy® likes likes dead animal porn.
2a. Nigel does not like dead animal porn.

3. Nigel now lives in fear of the day when Nigel's Guy® walks in the door one day and says, "Hey honey, look what I found on the side of the road: something we can share!"

4. Real Life relationship has now been "affected" by what someone in that relationship masturbates to.

UNNNNNGGGGGHHH!!!!!

your fucktarded hypothetical scenario != evidence

[Darth Cupcake]

I guess I'm just awfully boring and think about things that I would like to have actually happen when I am masturbating.

Mmmm....

-DC
Strong supporter of masturbation for all!

[LMNO]

I guess I'm just awfully boring and think about things that I would like to have actually happen when I am masturbating.

Mmmm....

-DC
Strong supporter of masturbation for all!

Ummm.... Like what?




LMNO
-I had to ask. 

[Darth Cupcake]

I guess I'm just awfully boring and think about things that I would like to have actually happen when I am masturbating.

Mmmm....

-DC
Strong supporter of masturbation for all!

Ummm.... Like what?




LMNO
-I had to ask. 

Sex.





What, you think I'm going to say any more than that?

[Cainad (dec.)]

What you masturbate to does tend to affect your rl relationships.

I could not possibly disagree more.

do you have ANY evidence to back up your claim?

Consider the following scenario:

1. Nigel's Guy® is into dead animal porn. Like, REALLY into it.

2. Nigel finds out that Nigel's Guy® likes likes dead animal porn.
2a. Nigel does not like dead animal porn.

3. Nigel now lives in fear of the day when Nigel's Guy® walks in the door one day and says, "Hey honey, look what I found on the side of the road: something we can share!"

4. Real Life relationship has now been "affected" by what someone in that relationship masturbates to.

UNNNNNGGGGGHHH!!!!!

your fucktarded hypothetical scenario != evidence

No, it isn't. But don't be a dumbass and assume that knowledge of Partner 1's fantasies won't affect how Partner 2 thinks about them. Just because some people can whack off to whatever they please and still get in the mood for IRL sex doesn't mean the person they're having sex with IRL won't think it's weird and start avoiding them.

Sociology may be a soft science, but if you ignore it altogether because you enjoy being an evidence-based realist with an intellectual bead up the arse, then you have no right to complain when your relationships with friends and acquaintances are affected once they find out about "the Camry incident."

[LMNO]

You're mixing up the points.

ECH's point: images and fantasies in your head do not affect your personality.

Your point: other people's conclusions about your fantasies affect how they treat you.


Big difference.

[Cainad (dec.)]

You're mixing up the points.

ECH's point: images and fantasies in your head do not affect your personality.

Your point: other people's conclusions about your fantasies affect how they treat you.


Big difference.

Please to note the original point of contention:

What you masturbate to does tend to affect your rl relationships.

Not to brag, but my point is at least within three parsecs of this one.

[Darth Cupcake]

I hate being the person who sounds all fence-sitty and vague, but here we go:

Sometimes, what a person fantasizes about they fantasize about because they cannot have it in reality--there are people out there who enjoy rape porn because of issues of domination, degradation, etc.

Other people just like watching it, but remain respectful, sexually healthy individuals IRL.

This gives you something of a gray area. Because you can have someone, to continue with the same example, who enjoys watching rape porn. The person's SO has been raped, and finds out about the porn. Suddenly, they become paranoid because they cannot know whether or not this is just enjoyment of porn, or is it an outward manifestation of an interior desire.

Most people don't have this kind of issue in a relationship. It's more of a trust issue--you cannot know which side your SO is approaching the porn from. So it becomes a question of how much you trust them to be a stable, rational individual or not.

This is part of why I'd rather not know--then it never becomes an issue. No matter how much you love your SO, for MANY people (not all, but many), it's just better to keep some things separate from each other. Human sexuality is incredibly complicated, particularly in many of our societies, so there is no good reason to just make it harder on yourself when you don't need to.

[Cramulus]

Long story short: If you don't trust your SO, you certainly shouldn't tell him or her about your miniature pony double-analingus snuff DVDs.

Personally - I'd never get tangled up in a long term relationship with someone who I can't even talk to about my weird desires and fantasies. Likewise once I'm invested in someone, I never pass judgement on her tastes - even if she wants me to make her wear a fursuit, bake a buttcream pie, and rub her nose in it.

I would much rather get all that stuff out on the table up front. If I'm dating you, I'm going to -at some point - ask you to put on a Rosie the Robot outfit and call me Mister J. Much better to know that in advance I think.


   ANOTHER MOUSTACHE RIDE PLZ, MISTAH JAY?
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That's why my ideal girlfriend is not programmed to judge or feel shame. My sexuality is part of who I am - and I feel no need to obfuscate it. If I'm in a relationship where I have to - well, time to move on.



Of course, there are things I think about during Cram-Time which I would never do in real life - like having sex with Martha Washington, or the St. Pauly Girl (I've got a picture of her in my wallet). Thankfully, there are no DVDs of that yet.    hmmmmmmm though rule 34 suggests otherwise

[LMNO]

I dunno about Martha, but it's almost a certainty that German Beer Hall Girls having sex is out there somewhere.