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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, April 21, 2008, 02:28:52 AM

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Adjective Noun

Gah, this thread moves too fast!

To Daruko - so you maintain that the correct result of the cat in the box experiment is that the cat is both alive and dead, with the correct result arrived at by considering the quantum state of each particle of the cat?

As I understand it, the point of the thought experiment was that macro objects do not display the strange behavior that can sometimes be seen in quantum environments. For instance, I have yet to hear of sticks that display quantum entanglement. Yes, my quantum knowledge is probably out of date. Its a personal interest, I dont publish peer-reviewed papers.

And yes, the point of models is to simplify the world. If they were exact, we would just be able to understand the universe itself instead of the model.

Also, saying things could be true is not disprovable, but also doesnt mean much. Last-thursdayism could be true, but it doesnt help us understand the universe. Or whatever this thread is about now.

Also, many-universes? I've never seen another. Isnt that the result of some people taking the 'sum of paths' method literally? (or whatever the name is, where you calculate what is going to happen by considering everything that could possibly happen and going for the path of least resistance). Of course it COULD be true, but until we find some way of looking at other universes (where would you start? Especially if they can have any physical properties), it doesnt really mean much.

Quote from: daruko on May 01, 2008, 03:45:12 PM

Alert: Limpballs tactic in use.  Please steer clear of the lasers.

Well fuck me. Nobody told me this was a serious thread.

Adjective Noun

Quote from: President Bush on May 02, 2008, 08:50:58 AM
Wow! You fags are still here? Maybe you should get off your ass and put some thought into something meaningful instead of a stupid kiddie message board. You're all pawns in the game of life, no matter how much you think about it. You're still retarded no matter how big your words are. You're still missing the point.

There is still time to accept Jesus Christ, he is the only one that can fill the enormous void in your life. He is the definite answer you've been wasting your life looking for.  He will save your soul and ease your mind.  I too am a mere, flawed mortal. I can only hope others would try to reach me in times of need. This might be your last chance to save your eternity.


You retarded, wheelcahir stricken, pathetic, hippie slaves can't stop me! Bow down to your master! HaHaHa!  :mrgreen: :D :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :D

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Triple Zero

Quote from: Golden Applesauce on May 02, 2008, 03:22:41 AM
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Quote from: LMNO on May 01, 2008, 06:50:31 PM
But we are existing in this universe.

You know, the one where an object is pulled towards the groung at 32 m/s/s

9.8 m/s2, even.

i think it's 32 feet/s2?


Quite right, although its 9.81 m/s2
That 0.01 make one hell of a difference. Trust me on that one

It depends on your elevation.

YOU TOO ARE RONG HAHAHA

and proximity to the equator (i think).

which is why i cited the gravitational acceleration only in one significant decimal. if i had said 9.80 i'd have been wrong, but 9.8 is quite correct and does not give you a flawed idea of the accuracy of your calculations. because yes, if 0.01 will make one hell of a difference, better take that elevation into account as well.
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hooplala

Quote from: hunter s.durden on May 02, 2008, 01:26:21 AM
I'm not sure. I refuted his refutation by not pay attention.

Something about how things can change.

You mean, like, the arrow in mid-flight argument?
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

hunter s.durden

So you guys are doing a lot of physics calculation in your spare time?

Quote from: Hoopla on May 02, 2008, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: hunter s.durden on May 02, 2008, 01:26:21 AM
I'm not sure. I refuted his refutation by not pay attention.

Something about how things can change.

You mean, like, the arrow in mid-flight argument?

I don't know that argument. I don't get mixed up with pretentious philosowads. I've got beers to drink, lives to ruin.
This space for rent.

Cain

Hoopla, you mean Zeno's paradox?

Philosophy is good for mindfucking people, but they have to be half smart in the first place (smart enough to follow the argument, but stupid enough to fall for it).   This does not include philosophy students, because the first thing a smart philosophy student learns is that other courses are more highly valued in the market, and easier to complete, and so anyone left doing the course is stupid.

hunter s.durden

Every philosophy student I have met seems to be taught that it's more important to stuff your sentences with as many cool philosophy terms and obscure philosopher names as possible, especially at the expense of practical meaning.
This space for rent.

Cain

Pretty much.  University seminars for art courses are usually too short and infrequent to sharpen anyone's argumentative and critical thinking abilities, and the required reading for Philosophy tends to be insanely high (though cheap, because all the books copyright's have expired).  So you either try to learn properly, and have a nervous breakdown, or learn to skim read and spout bullshit, and get a 1:1 and 3 years worth of debt.

hooplala

"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Daruko

I demand you stop posting at once, until I can write decent response.   :evilmad:

Cain

Quote from: Hoopla on May 02, 2008, 02:14:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 02, 2008, 02:06:08 PM
Hoopla, you mean Zeno's paradox?

Yes, I love using it at parties.

Yeah, its not bad.  Alot of the old Greek ones make good party tricks because, well, they were mostly invented for them.  The intelligensia of the time would get together, get incredibly drunk and try to show each other up with annoying metaphysical and logical paradoxes.  And then Plato ruined it all.

Thurnez Isa

Quote from: daruko on May 02, 2008, 02:19:31 PM
I demand you stop posting at once, until I can write decent response.   :evilmad:


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Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

LMNO

Quote from: daruko on May 02, 2008, 02:19:31 PM
I demand you stop posting at once, until I can write decent response.   :evilmad:

No.   You gotta move fast, here at the ol' PD.com.

hooplala

Quote from: Cain on May 02, 2008, 02:22:13 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 02, 2008, 02:14:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 02, 2008, 02:06:08 PM
Hoopla, you mean Zeno's paradox?

Yes, I love using it at parties.

Yeah, its not bad.  Alot of the old Greek ones make good party tricks because, well, they were mostly invented for them.  The intelligensia of the time would get together, get incredibly drunk and try to show each other up with annoying metaphysical and logical paradoxes.  And then Plato ruined it all.

He's like the guy in college who never got laid.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Daruko

#209
j/k obviously

EDIT: I'll be posting as soon as I can think...extreme workload and stress right now.  Have fun!