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Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« on: November 05, 2008, 04:48:27 pm »
Other than the option of paying Ivan Stang money... what is the difference between me an a SubGenius?

Is there a difference?

“Soon all of us will have special names” — Professor Brian O’Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes" — Walt Whitman

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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 04:52:54 pm »
(Punch it, Hurb
Yo, I don't think we should talk about this
Come on, why not?
People might misunderstand what we're tryin' to say, you know?
No, but that's a part of life)

Come on

Let's talk about Sub Genii
Let's talk about you and me
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects

Let's talk about sects for now to the people at home or in the crowd
It keeps coming up anyhow
Don't decoy, avoid, or make void the topic
Cuz that ain't gonna stop it
Now we talk about sects on the radio and video shows
Many will know anything goes
Let's tell it how it is, and how it could be
How it was, and of course, how it should be
Those who think it's dirty have a choice
Pick up the needle, press pause, or turn the radio off
Will that stop us, Pep? I doubt it
All right then, come on, Spin

Hot to trot, make any man's eyes pop
She use what she got to get whatever she don't got
Fellas drool like fools, but then again they're only human
The chick was a hit because her body was boomin'
Gold, pearls, rubies, crazy diamonds
Nothin' she ever wore was ever common
Her dates heads of state, men of taste
Lawyers, doctors, no one was too great for her to get with
Or even mess with, the Prez she says was next on her list
And believe me, you, it's as good as true
There ain't a man alive that she couldn't get next to
She had it all in the bag so she should have been glad
But she was mad and sad and feelin' bad
Thinkin' about the things that she never had
No love, just sects, followed next with a check and a note
That last night was dope

Let's talk about Sub Genii (sing it)
Let's talk about you and me (sing it, sing it)
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects (come on)
Let's talk about sects (do it)
Let's talk about sects (uh-huh)
Let's talk about sects

Ladies, all the ladies, louder now, help me out
Come on, all the ladies - let's talk about sects, all right

(Yo, Pep, I don't think they're gonna play this on the radio
And why not? Everybody has sects
I mean, everybody should be makin' love
Come on, how many guys you know make love?)

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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 04:54:42 pm »
(Punch it, Hurb
Yo, I don't think we should talk about this
Come on, why not?
People might misunderstand what we're tryin' to say, you know?
No, but that's a part of life)

Come on

Let's talk about Sub Genii
Let's talk about you and me
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects

Let's talk about sects for now to the people at home or in the crowd
It keeps coming up anyhow
Don't decoy, avoid, or make void the topic
Cuz that ain't gonna stop it
Now we talk about sects on the radio and video shows
Many will know anything goes
Let's tell it how it is, and how it could be
How it was, and of course, how it should be
Those who think it's dirty have a choice
Pick up the needle, press pause, or turn the radio off
Will that stop us, Pep? I doubt it
All right then, come on, Spin

Hot to trot, make any man's eyes pop
She use what she got to get whatever she don't got
Fellas drool like fools, but then again they're only human
The chick was a hit because her body was boomin'
Gold, pearls, rubies, crazy diamonds
Nothin' she ever wore was ever common
Her dates heads of state, men of taste
Lawyers, doctors, no one was too great for her to get with
Or even mess with, the Prez she says was next on her list
And believe me, you, it's as good as true
There ain't a man alive that she couldn't get next to
She had it all in the bag so she should have been glad
But she was mad and sad and feelin' bad
Thinkin' about the things that she never had
No love, just sects, followed next with a check and a note
That last night was dope

Let's talk about Sub Genii (sing it)
Let's talk about you and me (sing it, sing it)
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects (come on)
Let's talk about sects (do it)
Let's talk about sects (uh-huh)
Let's talk about sects

Ladies, all the ladies, louder now, help me out
Come on, all the ladies - let's talk about sects, all right

(Yo, Pep, I don't think they're gonna play this on the radio
And why not? Everybody has sects
I mean, everybody should be makin' love
Come on, how many guys you know make love?)

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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 04:56:20 pm »
(Punch it, Hurb
Yo, I don't think we should talk about this
Come on, why not?
People might misunderstand what we're tryin' to say, you know?
No, but that's a part of life)

Come on

Let's talk about Sub Genii
Let's talk about you and me
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects

Let's talk about sects for now to the people at home or in the crowd
It keeps coming up anyhow
Don't decoy, avoid, or make void the topic
Cuz that ain't gonna stop it
Now we talk about sects on the radio and video shows
Many will know anything goes
Let's tell it how it is, and how it could be
How it was, and of course, how it should be
Those who think it's dirty have a choice
Pick up the needle, press pause, or turn the radio off
Will that stop us, Pep? I doubt it
All right then, come on, Spin

Hot to trot, make any man's eyes pop
She use what she got to get whatever she don't got
Fellas drool like fools, but then again they're only human
The chick was a hit because her body was boomin'
Gold, pearls, rubies, crazy diamonds
Nothin' she ever wore was ever common
Her dates heads of state, men of taste
Lawyers, doctors, no one was too great for her to get with
Or even mess with, the Prez she says was next on her list
And believe me, you, it's as good as true
There ain't a man alive that she couldn't get next to
She had it all in the bag so she should have been glad
But she was mad and sad and feelin' bad
Thinkin' about the things that she never had
No love, just sects, followed next with a check and a note
That last night was dope

Let's talk about Sub Genii (sing it)
Let's talk about you and me (sing it, sing it)
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects (come on)
Let's talk about sects (do it)
Let's talk about sects (uh-huh)
Let's talk about sects

Ladies, all the ladies, louder now, help me out
Come on, all the ladies - let's talk about sects, all right

(Yo, Pep, I don't think they're gonna play this on the radio
And why not? Everybody has sects
I mean, everybody should be makin' love
Come on, how many guys you know make love?)

Good lord Payne, how do you read my mind like this?
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"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes" — Walt Whitman

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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 05:00:10 pm »
Good lord Payne, how do you read my mind like this?

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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 05:40:37 pm »
(Punch it, Hurb
Yo, I don't think we should talk about this
Come on, why not?
People might misunderstand what we're tryin' to say, you know?
No, but that's a part of life)

Come on

Let's talk about Sub Genii
Let's talk about you and me
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects

Let's talk about sects for now to the people at home or in the crowd
It keeps coming up anyhow
Don't decoy, avoid, or make void the topic
Cuz that ain't gonna stop it
Now we talk about sects on the radio and video shows
Many will know anything goes
Let's tell it how it is, and how it could be
How it was, and of course, how it should be
Those who think it's dirty have a choice
Pick up the needle, press pause, or turn the radio off
Will that stop us, Pep? I doubt it
All right then, come on, Spin

Hot to trot, make any man's eyes pop
She use what she got to get whatever she don't got
Fellas drool like fools, but then again they're only human
The chick was a hit because her body was boomin'
Gold, pearls, rubies, crazy diamonds
Nothin' she ever wore was ever common
Her dates heads of state, men of taste
Lawyers, doctors, no one was too great for her to get with
Or even mess with, the Prez she says was next on her list
And believe me, you, it's as good as true
There ain't a man alive that she couldn't get next to
She had it all in the bag so she should have been glad
But she was mad and sad and feelin' bad
Thinkin' about the things that she never had
No love, just sects, followed next with a check and a note
That last night was dope

Let's talk about Sub Genii (sing it)
Let's talk about you and me (sing it, sing it)
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects (come on)
Let's talk about sects (do it)
Let's talk about sects (uh-huh)
Let's talk about sects

Ladies, all the ladies, louder now, help me out
Come on, all the ladies - let's talk about sects, all right

(Yo, Pep, I don't think they're gonna play this on the radio
And why not? Everybody has sects
I mean, everybody should be makin' love
Come on, how many guys you know make love?)

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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 06:01:50 pm »
Other than the option of paying Ivan Stang money... what is the difference between me an a SubGenius?

Is there a difference?


“Soon all of us will have special names” — Professor Brian O’Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes" — Walt Whitman

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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2008, 06:05:19 pm »
to be honest, I've never made it through the Book of the Subgenius.

Too preachy, too smug, too condescending, too profiteering for my taste. After reading 30 pages of cramped text about how awesome SubGenii are -- with barely any explanation as to WHY -- I lost interest. I can see how it would appeal to outsiders with superiority complexes. But it lacked the simple, taoist qualities that initially attracted me to Discordia.

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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2008, 06:13:53 pm »
That was my response as well, and I gave it a couple tries . . . that's why I was hoping some of our SubGenii friends would 'splain the appeal to me.

I figured at least YattoDobbs would be able to fill a page with meaningless drivel on the subject . . .
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"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes" — Walt Whitman

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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2008, 06:15:52 pm »
Your best bet would probably be Roger.

I have the Book of the Subgenius, I've gotten through it and got a few laughs out of it, but nothing enlightening.  :kingmeh:
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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2008, 06:16:19 pm »
I figured at least YattoDobbs would be able to fill a page with meaningless drivel on the subject . . .

Who knew it would be me who would step up to that plate?

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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2008, 06:16:42 pm »
. . . waiting for Roger . . .
“Soon all of us will have special names” — Professor Brian O’Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes" — Walt Whitman

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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2008, 06:17:14 pm »
That was my response as well, and I gave it a couple tries . . . that's why I was hoping some of our SubGenii friends would 'splain the appeal to me.

I figured at least YattoDobbs would be able to fill a page with meaningless drivel on the subject . . .

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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2008, 06:17:30 pm »
I figured at least YattoDobbs would be able to fill a page with meaningless drivel on the subject . . .

Who knew it would be me who would step up to that plate?

Naw, your song parody had 169% more content than any of Yatto's posts.
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"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes" — Walt Whitman

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Re: Let's Talk About The Subgenii
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2008, 06:44:44 pm »
to be honest, I've never made it through the Book of the Subgenius.

Too preachy, too smug, too condescending, too profiteering for my taste. After reading 30 pages of cramped text about how awesome SubGenii are -- with barely any explanation as to WHY -- I lost interest. I can see how it would appeal to outsiders with superiority complexes. But it lacked the simple, taoist qualities that initially attracted me to Discordia.

Try Revelation X.  It's better.  A lot better.

Being preachy, smug, and condescending myself, it's a good fit.  You cant stand on street corners and preach the word of Eris as well as you can the word of "Bob".  Not the I do when I'm not drunk, but still. Also, and this amounts to personal taste, I find SubGenius lit about 6 times funnier than Discordian lit.  (Although, If I hadn't read PD before BotSG, that may not be the case.)

Part of what I like about it is the whole self contradicting Mythos.  Discordia is a set of ideas, lain out rather plainly.  CotSG gets its ideas across in a rather more complicated (convoluted) way.  I'd almost call SubGenii fundamentalist Discordians (although not in the "True Discordians" way at all.)  Rather, it's Discordia for people who would be fundamentalists if they were stupid enough to fall for, say, Xtianity.  If I were Christian, I'm pretty sure I'd be the crazy guy with the 14 foot tall cross outside the theatre screaming condemnation at everybody.  Instead I tell people I'm 1/4 Yeti and smoke a pipe (granted, I smoked a pipe before I'd ever heard of the Church, quit, and recently took it back up again; I dont dont smoke it because I'm a SG.  That would be goofy.)

I really liked the bits about the luck plane, and everything on JHVH-1 gives me silver bullets for use on christians.

I feel that SubGenius stuff has more personal empowerment focus than Discordia, as goofy as that may sound.  I read somewhere (may have been one of the PD intros, cant remember) that SubGenii take the stuff Discordians use to clean their third eyes and smoke it.  I'd call that accurate. 

SubGeniusism has more mouth-froth than Discordja.

Hopefully that rambling post helped a little.
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