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Do you believe in a soul?

Started by The Dark Monk, November 07, 2008, 01:51:39 AM

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Kai

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Quote from: TheScarletReaper on November 07, 2008, 01:51:39 AM
Do you believe we are physical manifestations of spiritual energy?

No, because its stupid.

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I really don't want to believe in souls and ghosts and all that nonsense, but a couple friends of mine caught one on video.

They were playing around with a new camera in the winter park cemetery/golf course (that's how we roll here) and actually caught a thing with legs and all walking in front of their camera and had no idea at the time why the auto focus was going wonky till they got it home and played it back.

Assholes  :argh!:

The whole idea of it just sounds so stupid, till you see it. Then you're all weirded out.

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Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 07, 2008, 01:53:11 AM
Simple answer:  What the fuck is a "soul"? And what the fuck is "spiritual energy"?

Yeah, this.

I mean, listen, I am just a superstitious savage, but I'd like to see these terms defined more completely.
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There is no soul.  :sad:
If there would be, you could buy them. (some people think that you can already)
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The word "soul" implies something separable from the body.  I don't think there is soul.
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Quote from: Squiddy on November 07, 2008, 06:19:43 AM
I really don't want to believe in souls and ghosts and all that nonsense, but a couple friends of mine caught one on video.

They were playing around with a new camera in the winter park cemetery/golf course (that's how we roll here) and actually caught a thing with legs and all walking in front of their camera and had no idea at the time why the auto focus was going wonky till they got it home and played it back.

Assholes  :argh!:

The whole idea of it just sounds so stupid, till you see it. Then you're all weirded out.

Again, reminds me of JDatE.  Creepy shadow people.

Are you gonna find it for us?

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the spirit and matter divided so that people who worship spirit can distinct themselves as an ingroup from people who worship matter.  it's a big ego trip affirming 'affiliation'. we're all here staring into each other's self-important eyes thinking "i'm better than you."

thats why poop jokes are funny.  

everyone does it. (except my great-grandma)

imagine maintaining eyecontact with your worst enemy while the two of you pinch a loaf.  I DARE YOU NOT TO GIGGLE!

(and my great-grandma is a fucking saint with no sense of humor)






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Quote from: Cainad on November 07, 2008, 05:06:00 AM
Chances are, there are very few ways you could define that in such a way that I would agree. So I'll say again, "nah."

i think i'm on the same line as Cainad here.

I'm gonna say "no", unless you spin a very specific definition of the term "soul" and "spiritual energy", so specific in fact that it would be mostly confusing to conflate them with the words "soul" and "spiritual energy"--so again, "no".
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I believe in an emergent property of complex biology that functions on a level above mundane physics.

I prefer to call it "mind" and I believe I've actually witnessed rare instances of it's manifestation, among the morass of brain-dead humanity.

The only difference between the concepts of "mind" and "soul" seems to be that the soul continues to exist, after the hardware is turned off. Strikes me as a bit far fetched but I'd like to be proven wrong.

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Quote from: Kai on November 07, 2008, 05:29:56 AM
No. When we kick it, we go back to the earth. Thats the way it should be anyway.

THIS.
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Quote from: TheScarletReaper on November 07, 2008, 01:51:39 AM
Do you believe we are physical manifestations of spiritual energy?
yes in the form of electromagnetic waves, and vibrations of tiny little things called atoms.
that shit is trippy as fuck.

Quote from: Kai on November 07, 2008, 05:29:56 AM
No. When we kick it, we go back to the earth. Thats the way it should be anyway.
Exactly
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Kai

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on November 07, 2008, 10:06:05 AM
I believe in an emergent property of complex biology that functions on a level above mundane physics.

Also this.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

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Y'all are making James Brown cry.

James Brown: Godfather of Soul, and general A Soul.




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Coincidentally, I've never believed in James Brown either

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
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Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
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Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark