Experimental statistics...

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Also, burnout sucks. I hope you get through it soon Kai.

I've had my fair share and the main thing I've learned from it is to get help sooner rather than later.

[Kai]

Ah, yeah.  Understandable, its always annoying doing something you don't like for the second time.  Especially when it has little relevance.

Experimental statistics has little relevance?

Relatively speaking.

Obviously slightly more important for other topics, not so much for studying insects.

Oh, its useful for any experimental design that requires data manipulation, and that includes all of the biological sciences


However, my focus is systematics, and for the particular taxonomic research I am working on it is not going to be necessary. The 'experiment' I am conducting doesn't require measurement sampling for estimation of parameters in any formal fashion.

[Kai]

Also, burnout sucks. I hope you get through it soon Kai.

I've had my fair share and the main thing I've learned from it is to get help sooner rather than later.

Well, part of that is the latent depression hanging around. I have people who help with that, but in the end its up to me to pull myself out of it, and its not easy. Its the same amount of effort that goes into heavy labor, albeit reflected in a different kind of result.

Breathing and exercise helps.

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Man, I'm actually extremely interested in experimental statistics right now.

Wanna trade?

I've got Corporate Identity, Art Direction, Web Design II, and Aesthetics for you to choose from.

[Kai]

Man, I'm actually extremely interested in experimental statistics right now.

Wanna trade?

I've got Corporate Identity, Art Direction, Web Design II, and Aesthetics for you to choose from.

Aesthetics sounds fun.

I'll switch ya stats for philosophy.

[Faust]

I hate statistics. Sadly it is central to process modeling for industry.
The worst is the six sigma ethos were supposed to absorb.
Its pretty cool how precise quality systems have become, but I don't want to eat, think and breath it.

[Cain]

It was my impression that it's crucially important to making experimental data scientifically useful, regardless of the field.

Not according to Kai, who said

my research doesn't really deal with statistical analysis thank fuck, the only stats needed will be cladistics based.

Which would be, uh, that context thing I was talking about.

[LMNO]

Kai, is there a way you could re-think why you're taking statistics?

I mean, I know it doesn't apply to your field of study at school, but maybe it could apply to some other part of your life?  I dunno exactly what, but I used to try and re-purpose my boring classes so they applied to something different than what they were intended to address.


Wow, that sounds pretty vague and unhelpful.

[Kai]

Kai, is there a way you could re-think why you're taking statistics?

I mean, I know it doesn't apply to your field of study at school, but maybe it could apply to some other part of your life?  I dunno exactly what, but I used to try and re-purpose my boring classes so they applied to something different than what they were intended to address.


Wow, that sounds pretty vague and unhelpful.

I don't know really. Its possible at some point in future research I will need to make some sense of a large set of data. I just don't work with numbers enough in a complex fashion in any aspect of my life, I mean, I'm not about to go into banking or the stock market any time soon, I'm not interested in sports or anything like that....

[AFK]

I absolutely despised stats when I did psych.

If you want, I have an e-book copy of All the Maths You Missed, But Need to Know for Grad School.  It contains some more advanced mathematical ideas, such as Fourier Analysis (well, advanced for me, you might know this), but if you think it could help, give me a shout out.

Thanks Cain. I don't think this is going to be HARD persay, but rather, its gonna be a repeat of all the shit I had 5 years ago and forgot, which sucks. my research doesn't really deal with statistical analysis thank fuck, the only stats needed will be cladistics based.

we're also not doing any survey design in this class (also thank fuck).

Ooh survey design.  That's one of the things I do for a living.  You can always run something by me. 

[Vene]

Kai, is there a way you could re-think why you're taking statistics?

I mean, I know it doesn't apply to your field of study at school, but maybe it could apply to some other part of your life?  I dunno exactly what, but I used to try and re-purpose my boring classes so they applied to something different than what they were intended to address.


Wow, that sounds pretty vague and unhelpful.

I don't know really. Its possible at some point in future research I will need to make some sense of a large set of data. I just don't work with numbers enough in a complex fashion in any aspect of my life, I mean, I'm not about to go into banking or the stock market any time soon, I'm not interested in sports or anything like that....

Is there any chance you would work with insect genes?  The chi-square test was my best friend when I took genetics last semester.

[Kai]

I so do not want to do the gene barcoding for this project. I'll do the sequence comparisons if I have to, just to establish associations, but I just do NOT want to do more than that.

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It was my impression that it's crucially important to making experimental data scientifically useful, regardless of the field.

Not according to Kai, who said

my research doesn't really deal with statistical analysis thank fuck, the only stats needed will be cladistics based.

Which would be, uh, that context thing I was talking about.

That would be, uh, that impression thing I was talking about.

[Cain]

It was my impression that it's crucially important to making experimental data scientifically useful, regardless of the field.

Not according to Kai, who said

my research doesn't really deal with statistical analysis thank fuck, the only stats needed will be cladistics based.

Which would be, uh, that context thing I was talking about.

That would be, uh, that impression thing I was talking about.

Look, if you're trying to pick a fight, go buy a punching bag.

Cain,
not taking your bait.

[rong]

100% of statisticis is bullshit