STOP EATING SUSHI

[Bruno]

Worse even than catfish?

[the last yatto]

how about dogfish

[Cain]

And anyway, don't shop at Waitrose.

Its either that or Lidl.  And, funnily enough, Waitrose is cheaper than Lidl, once you factor in the medical bills and days off for food poisoning.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I understand seal and sea lion are also pretty fucking awful.

Here in Oregon, the sea lion "overpopulation" (questionable at best) is currently being blamed for the decline in salmon, despite the fact that the decline is KNOWN to be tied to damming, not fishing, and despite the fact that humans have been fishing the shit out of salmon in numbers sea lions can't touch for centuries, and despite the fact that the decline started well before the sea lion population boom. When they dammed the Columbia river, as it happens.

What I want to know is why, if sea lions are "overpopulated" (ie. back to numbers approaching what they were before they were all but exterminated in the first place... let's for the moment ignore the fact that they existed in tremendous numbers back in the heyday of salmon fishing in the Columbia) why can't we hunt the motherfuckers? It seems that the State can kill them off, but won't let the common people obtain licenses to hunt them, which seems like the most reasonable and cost-effective way to thin them out.

Maybe because they taste terrible, but plenty of people would go for it anyway. I bet you get used to the taste after a while.

[Kai]

I understand seal and sea lion are also pretty fucking awful.

Here in Oregon, the sea lion "overpopulation" (questionable at best) is currently being blamed for the decline in salmon, despite the fact that the decline is KNOWN to be tied to damming, not fishing, and despite the fact that humans have been fishing the shit out of salmon in numbers sea lions can't touch for centuries, and despite the fact that the decline started well before the sea lion population boom. When they dammed the Columbia river, as it happens.

What I want to know is why, if sea lions are "overpopulated" (ie. back to numbers approaching what they were before they were all but exterminated in the first place... let's for the moment ignore the fact that they existed in tremendous numbers back in the heyday of salmon fishing in the Columbia) why can't we hunt the motherfuckers? It seems that the State can kill them off, but won't let the common people obtain licenses to hunt them, which seems like the most reasonable and cost-effective way to thin them out.

Maybe because they taste terrible, but plenty of people would go for it anyway. I bet you get used to the taste after a while.

Especially the bolded part.

[Wind rider]

Any particular reason they didn't put a salmon stair into the dam, or are those just for weirs?

[Kai]

salmon stairs are honestly not as awesome as people make them out to be

There are also other problems, like water intakes from industry. Theres some north atlantic anadromous fish that was decreasing rapidly in numbers due to being sucked into nuclear power intake pipes during their upstream migration. They actually shut down these plants in stages every year during this event to limit the mortality.

[Suu]

how about dogfish

Dogfish is in the shark family. They're small so I don't think they're worth eating.

[Kai]

how about dogfish

Dogfish is in the shark family. They're small so I don't think they're worth eating.

Apparently some Brits eat them in place of cod, called huss or rock salmon.

[BADGE OF HONOR]

I understand seal and sea lion are also pretty fucking awful.

Here in Oregon, the sea lion "overpopulation" (questionable at best) is currently being blamed for the decline in salmon, despite the fact that the decline is KNOWN to be tied to damming, not fishing, and despite the fact that humans have been fishing the shit out of salmon in numbers sea lions can't touch for centuries, and despite the fact that the decline started well before the sea lion population boom. When they dammed the Columbia river, as it happens.

What I want to know is why, if sea lions are "overpopulated" (ie. back to numbers approaching what they were before they were all but exterminated in the first place... let's for the moment ignore the fact that they existed in tremendous numbers back in the heyday of salmon fishing in the Columbia) why can't we hunt the motherfuckers? It seems that the State can kill them off, but won't let the common people obtain licenses to hunt them, which seems like the most reasonable and cost-effective way to thin them out.

Maybe because they taste terrible, but plenty of people would go for it anyway. I bet you get used to the taste after a while.

Render the blubber for biodeisel.

[Cain]

how about dogfish

Dogfish is in the shark family. They're small so I don't think they're worth eating.

Apparently some Brits eat them in place of cod, called huss or rock salmon.

Yup, they have been used as a replacement for cod in fish and chips on many seaside resorts.  I've seen them down at Weymouth, though I've never had the inclination to try them.

[Jasper]

God, that's horrid! 

[East Coast Hustle]

dogfish doesn't taste that bad.

of course, it also doesn't taste that good.

[Jasper]

What's it like?

ETA:  More interestingly, what sort of preparation makes it worth trying?

[Lyris_Nymphetamine]

i'll keep eating sushi until bill o'rielly tells me its a conspiracy by homosexuals against the nation of israel. then, and only then will i consider stopping eating my delicious unprepared fish.