A dedicated follower of strife

[bones]

I agree entirely with the OP, but Nigel, I would like to point out that this doesn't mean I like watching people suffer. TBH I do in some way enjoy watching horrible shit like 1man1jar or the world news, but that's just because I like to experiment with things that make me squirm, and I think it will make me better able to deal with life in the future

If I see a little kid fall over I would rather laugh than feel guilty - shit happens and there's not much you can do about it. I'm not going to laugh at starving kids, but that's very different, if child grazes a knee it will probably see the funny side in a few days (or years), if it ever develops decent emotional stability.

It's not human suffering that I enjoy seeing, it's chaos. Sure, that generally involves human suffering, which is a crying shame (karma is a bitch, yeah fuck all you monkeys!), but I do constantly pray for social collapse to some degree. There is plenty that's fucked up right now and I don't think the situation can properly improve without casualties. So be it.

Cain has a really good point though, and I do really hope we can strip away a shitload of our system WITHOUT societies all descending into oligarchy or despotism, but I have little confidence.

Better to try and find comedy in any situation IMO. Horrormirth or just plain horror - have a giggle. Guilt isn't always constructive, often it just sucks.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Happy ever after isn't an ending in my book, it's an ideal place to hold a war.

While I like the whole rant, this one sentence speaks volumes to my black withered soul!

I don't enjoy innocent people suffering.  In any way.  But there is a war coming and in war it is the innocent who will suffer.  I don't have to like it, I don't like it, but it's just the way of war.

The people of the world need a wake up call to realize that this right now IS the Happily ever after..... 

[Elder Iptuous]

I posit that, as the world blooms around us, there is pleasure and horror, beauty and grotesquerie.  It all exists, regardless of anyone's desire, and therefore the whole is lesser, in some way, if any aspect is not appreciated by somebody.  The horror and the grotesque is difficult to appreciate and love by those mired directly in it, so it is therefore the duty of those in a comfortable vantage point to admire their strife.  This, of course, does not, impact the responsibility of the individual to stop what suffering one can...

ETA: i'm also likely to change my mind as soon as i'm on the other side of the equation...

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

I posit that, as the world blooms around us, there is pleasure and horror, beauty and grotesquerie.  It all exists, regardless of anyone's desire, and therefore the whole is lesser, in some way, if any aspect is not appreciated by somebody.  The horror and the grotesque is difficult to appreciate and love by those mired directly in it, so it is therefore the duty of those in a comfortable vantage point to admire their strife.  This, of course, does not, impact the responsibility of the individual to stop what suffering one can...

ETA: i'm also likely to change my mind as soon as i'm on the other side of the equation...

You ride that fence well...... 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Being in pain is one of the worst things a human being can face.

A life without pain is nought but the most hollow shell of an existence.

Go figure.

[Elder Iptuous]

You ride that fence well...... 

and I pay the piper in the form of karmic wedgies for it...

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

You ride that fence well...... 

and I pay the piper in the form of karmic wedgies for it...

Better karmic wedgies than astral fisting.....

[Tempest Virago]

The idea of karma greatly offends me. Yeah, bad stuff only happens to people who "deserve" it. It would be nice if life actually worked that way.

[Cramulus]

you're still running an old version of Karma? You've gotta patch that shit man. Upgrade to Karma v2.3, it's much better.

[LMNO]

I think Tempest V is still working on the outdated "Stoned Lennon" Karma patch that was recalled on 12/8/1980.

[hooplala]

The idea of karma greatly offends me. Yeah, bad stuff only happens to people who "deserve" it. It would be nice if life actually worked that way.

That is a bastardized Western view of karma, and has almost nothing in common with the original concept of karma.

[bones]

If you do something bad to someone the negative effects will be recurring forward forever, same goes for good things. It doesn't mean it will come back on the monkey who deserves it, but that it will come back on monkeys in general, who, clearly, deserve it.

[Elder Iptuous]

That is a bastardized Western view of karma, and has almost nothing in common with the original concept of karma.

The West was not required to bastardize the view of karma which you are referring to, to be fair....

[hooplala]

That is a bastardized Western view of karma, and has almost nothing in common with the original concept of karma.

The West was not required to bastardize the view of karma which you are referring to, to be fair....

I don't understand what you mean by that.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Problem with the westernised view of karma is that is comes with justice built in.

If you drop a pebble in a pond the ripples don't only hit the parts of the pond that deserve it.