A dedicated follower of strife

[hunter s.durden]

Let's explain karma (real old Eastern karma) for those of us that apparently don't know.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

See now that is why I say JUST SHOOT THEM!!!  One bullet, one person, perfect karma!!!

Let's explain karma (real old Eastern karma) for those of us that apparently don't know.

WIKI says....

Sorry I couldn't help myself....  But actually they give a decent definition so.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma

[hooplala]

Yeah it seems I had the wrong idea about Eastern karma... that'll teach me to blabber half-cocked...

I don't even remember where I heard about the supposed Eastern idea of karma, but what I had heard (or possibly read) was that karma wasn't a cosmic power, but was a behaviour.  For instance, if someone steps on your foot on the subway, you can let it make you mad so that you are more likely to bump into someone afterwards and not care about it (bad karma) or you could realize that the person probably didn't intend to step on your foot and not let it put you in a bad mood and pass that vindictiveness on to others (good karma).  And, while I still like that idea better and think it is more applicable in day to day life it is not, apparently, the true eastern view, which seems to have a lot to do with reincarnation and mystical mumbo jumbo.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Yeah it seems I had the wrong idea about Eastern karma... that'll teach me to blabber half-cocked...

I don't even remember where I heard about the supposed Eastern idea of karma, but what I had heard (or possibly read) was that karma wasn't a cosmic power, but was a behaviour.  For instance, if someone steps on your foot on the subway, you can let it make you mad so that you are more likely to bump into someone afterwards and not care about it (bad karma) or you could realize that the person probably didn't intend to step on your foot and not let it put you in a bad mood and pass that vindictiveness on to others (good karma).  And, while I still like that idea better and think it is more applicable in day to day life it is not, apparently, the true eastern view, which seems to have a lot to do with reincarnation and mystical mumbo jumbo.

Now I agree with you on that.  Karma is more of a cause and effect, not a what goes around comes around to bite you in the ass.  Is that your thinking Hoops?

My thing with the goes around, comes around thing is it follows so close to the whole wiccan thing of the law of three, whatever you do comes back three fold on you...  If that is really karma then is sucks ass!

[Cramulus]

I always thought the traditional definition had to do with reincarnation - that your Karma is like your life "score". if you die with a high score, in the next life you'll ascend to the next level of being.

The Western interpretation can be boiled down to "what you reap is what you sow".

My old roommate believes in "Karma Hacking" - this idea that if he intentionally endures suffering, the universe will magically balance out and he'll have pleasure later in life. This has caused him to settle for lots of bad shit instead of fighting for better shit. It pisses me off to no end to watch him do this to himself.

I really snapped at him once because was going to move into a one-room apartment in Harlem where he had no friends "so that he can live somewhere nice later". He was kind of depressed and figured that moving into a miserable isolated situation would be better than "using up" his karma now by living somewhere nice instead. I got really angry with him, told him that his beliefs were bullshit, and he got mad at me.

THAT'S KARMA, BITCHES 

[Urraco]

Yeah it seems I had the wrong idea about Eastern karma... that'll teach me to blabber half-cocked...

I don't even remember where I heard about the supposed Eastern idea of karma, but what I had heard (or possibly read) was that karma wasn't a cosmic power, but was a behaviour.  For instance, if someone steps on your foot on the subway, you can let it make you mad so that you are more likely to bump into someone afterwards and not care about it (bad karma) or you could realize that the person probably didn't intend to step on your foot and not let it put you in a bad mood and pass that vindictiveness on to others (good karma).  And, while I still like that idea better and think it is more applicable in day to day life it is not, apparently, the true eastern view, which seems to have a lot to do with reincarnation and mystical mumbo jumbo.

Now I agree with you on that.  Karma is more of a cause and effect, not a what goes around comes around to bite you in the ass.  Is that your thinking Hoops?

My thing with the goes around, comes around thing is it follows so close to the whole wiccan thing of the law of three, whatever you do comes back three fold on you...  If that is really karma then is sucks ass!

Yeah, it doesn't make sence.

There are people who are smelly dicks their whole life, and never get the punishment that these karma-like ideas supposedly dish.

If karma is at all, it is the traditional Eadtern idea: it only effects you in the after-life.

I always thought the traditional definition had to do with reincarnation - that your Karma is like your life "score". if you die with a high score, in the next life you'll ascend to the next level of being.

The Western interpretation can be boiled down to "what you reap is what you sow".

My old roommate believes in "Karma Hacking" - this idea that if he intentionally endures suffering, the universe will magically balance out and he'll have pleasure later in life. This has caused him to settle for lots of bad shit instead of fighting for better shit. It pisses me off to no end to watch him do this to himself.

I really snapped at him once because was going to move into a one-room apartment in Harlem where he had no friends "so that he can live somewhere nice later". He was kind of depressed and figured that moving into a miserable isolated situation would be better than "using up" his karma now by living somewhere nice instead. I got really angry with him, told him that his beliefs were bullshit, and he got mad at me.

THAT'S KARMA, BITCHES 

The above explains karma in full. Stop browsing wiki, damnit.

[LMNO]

Hoops, what you're talking about sounds similar to something RAW wrote about in one of the Cosmic Trigger books*.  He was talking about his daughter Luna who got beat up one day.  RAW was pissed, but Luna seemed to have completely worked through it, and removed all the anger from her system.  She simply wasn't bothered by it, and wasn't going to let it bother her.  RAW called it "stopping the wheel of Karma".














*Yes, RAW.  Shut up.

[hooplala]

Ahhh, maybe that's where I got it from then... thanks LMNO.

[Tempest Virago]

But I hate the idea of karma as a reincarnation thing, too. I was talking with my uncle and aunt who are Sikhs, and who I love, a few yearsago, and they basically said that if you're born poor/sick, it's because you were a bad person in a previous life.   

[East Coast Hustle]

I don't find it especially amusing, invigorating, or positive when people are hungry or homeless or physically harmed, especially kids.

It's easy for people to have a smugly salacious view of social collapse and the ensuing mayhem when they're snug in their homes with enough to eat. Go hungry and cold for a few weeks and see if you have as much fun as you think you will. Maybe watch some of your loved ones die and see if it motivates you.

yes, yes, and (especially) YES.

try to remember that not everyone fits neatly into your perception of how people ought to act or think.

[Thurnez Isa]

sometimes laughing is the only thing that keeps you from screaming

[BADGE OF HONOR]

I always figured social collapse would be like Katrina, except without the National Guard coming in to put a lid on things.

Actually, I'm fairly sure that the fastest way to social collapse would be a series of natural disasters, considering how badly just Katrina strained America's resources.

[Pope Lecherous]

I always figured social collapse would be like Katrina, except without the National Guard coming in to put a lid on things.

Actually, I'm fairly sure that the fastest way to social collapse would be a series of natural disasters, considering how badly just Katrina strained America's resources.

in the midst of an economic CRISIS

[BADGE OF HONOR]

Shut up and fuck off you tool.

[Pope Lecherous]

Shut up and fuck off you tool.

But you're right... and it would be especially fucked up in this CRISIS