The worst thread

[hooplala]

I don't think this was really the issue.  He has a habit of melting down completely every four months or so... I expected another meltdown since last week when he flipped out for no reason in my "Free Speech" thread.  Something else is going on with him.  Any rational person would ask why and merely ask to have their work pulled out of the material in question.

The rest of the flipping out is needless drama.  Cram never needed to say anything at all, and could have been selling copies the whole time.  He should be off the hook since he was honest enough to even mention it in the first place.

Get the sand out of your pussies.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

In Cain's defense... it sounds like he has some serious IRL problems which may have influenced his actions.

[AFK]

And as I commented in another thread it is probably good for him to take some time away.  It was good for me while I was away.  All I'm getting at is with this issue of printing and selling Intermittens, the best way to solve disagreements is to sit around the table and discuss them.  Not walk away from the table in disgust and then say you're not going to play at all. 

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

And as I commented in another thread it is probably good for him to take some time away.  It was good for me while I was away.  All I'm getting at is with this issue of printing and selling Intermittens, the best way to solve disagreements is to sit around the table and discuss them.  Not walk away from the table in disgust and then say you're not going to play at all. 

IAWTC

Maybe we should have a subforum called "THE TABLE" where we can go discuss stuff... keeping this in mind (rather than our normal forums where we love to pour boiling oil down each others pants).

I mean, I knida like when Nigel pours boiling oil down my pants, but mixing business and pleasure isn't a good idea. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

 

[Faust]

this is probably the most depressing thread ever.

[East Coast Hustle]

this is probably the most depressing fucking retarded thread ever.

fixed.

and yeah, it's a little hard to believe that anyone here actually thought Cram's intentions were to screw over the rest of the PD-ites, you know, given that he MADE THE OP ITT AS A MEANS TO FIND OUT WHAT WE THOUGHT OF HIS IDEA.

get a fucking grip, kids. No one is trying to steal your golden words, at least, no one who is a regular poster here.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I just thought P3nt was saying, if you have something you think is really good, and that you think you would like to maintain some rights over it, don't post it here. 

Okay.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

gee why doesnt that surprise me it was only a matter of time before something, *anything* would happen. last time (POEE, 3 years ago) you didnt get past chapter one, was there a similar situation, someone pissed you off? I just got around these places, I never heard anything about it.

Eat a dick.

[Lies]

this is probably the most depressing fucking retarded thread ever.

fixed.

and yeah, it's a little hard to believe that anyone here actually thought Cram's intentions were to screw over the rest of the PD-ites, you know, given that he MADE THE OP ITT AS A MEANS TO FIND OUT WHAT WE THOUGHT OF HIS IDEA.

get a fucking grip, kids. No one is trying to steal your golden words, at least, no one who is a regular poster here.

I don't know if I read that wrong or if you've read mine and crams names wrong, but I started the OP ITT as a means to find out what you guys think of my idea.

My idea was simply that I found a place that *might* print the mags for free and distribute them at a profit. (That's the idea anyway.)

From what I already knew and have re-confirmed again, I don't actually NEED permission from any of you guys to do what I want with intermittens considering its public domain and "kopyleft" status.

I never had to bring this up, all I wanted to do was to see what people thought of the idea.

I think its now obvious that it was a bad idea telling you all.

Maybe I should have just done it and secretly sent you all money if it had been a success (or just the board if it was a minor success), or just shut up and kept it a failed experiment if it hadn't been a success.

Maybe I should just do it and if its a success keep all the money anyway...
I mean, what are you guys going to do about it besides bitch and moan and hate me (IF you find out that I did).

But seriously, I'm most likely now not going to a do a thing, and instead of submitting stuff for future IM issues, just try and make my own free magazine and screw the rest of you guys!

[Telarus]

Wow, way to flock with the black sheep. You rebel, you.   

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

this is probably the most depressing fucking retarded thread ever.

fixed.

and yeah, it's a little hard to believe that anyone here actually thought Cram's intentions were to screw over the rest of the PD-ites, you know, given that he MADE THE OP ITT AS A MEANS TO FIND OUT WHAT WE THOUGHT OF HIS IDEA.

get a fucking grip, kids. No one is trying to steal your golden words, at least, no one who is a regular poster here.

I don't know if I read that wrong or if you've read mine and crams names wrong, but I started the OP ITT as a means to find out what you guys think of my idea.

My idea was simply that I found a place that *might* print the mags for free and distribute them at a profit. (That's the idea anyway.)

From what I already knew and have re-confirmed again, I don't actually NEED permission from any of you guys to do what I want with intermittens considering its public domain and "kopyleft" status.

I never had to bring this up, all I wanted to do was to see what people thought of the idea.

I think its now obvious that it was a bad idea telling you all.

Maybe I should have just done it and secretly sent you all money if it had been a success (or just the board if it was a minor success), or just shut up and kept it a failed experiment if it hadn't been a success.

Maybe I should just do it and if its a success keep all the money anyway...
I mean, what are you guys going to do about it besides bitch and moan and hate me (IF you find out that I did).

But seriously, I'm most likely now not going to a do a thing, and instead of submitting stuff for future IM issues, just try and make my own free magazine and screw the rest of you guys!

Lys, for the most part no one was even addressing your OP, but Cram's post which came after it, and of course Pent's post which came after that.

As far as Intermittens being public domain, that depends with each issue, because if the articles aren't public domain you actually aren't free to do whatever you want with the issue. You would have to discuss the copyright status of each issue with the contributors, as many have made clear (and were clear from the beginning, as with Cain and Roger) that they retain copyrights to their work.

[Lies]

this is probably the most depressing fucking retarded thread ever.

fixed.

and yeah, it's a little hard to believe that anyone here actually thought Cram's intentions were to screw over the rest of the PD-ites, you know, given that he MADE THE OP ITT AS A MEANS TO FIND OUT WHAT WE THOUGHT OF HIS IDEA.

get a fucking grip, kids. No one is trying to steal your golden words, at least, no one who is a regular poster here.

I don't know if I read that wrong or if you've read mine and crams names wrong, but I started the OP ITT as a means to find out what you guys think of my idea.

My idea was simply that I found a place that *might* print the mags for free and distribute them at a profit. (That's the idea anyway.)

From what I already knew and have re-confirmed again, I don't actually NEED permission from any of you guys to do what I want with intermittens considering its public domain and "kopyleft" status.

I never had to bring this up, all I wanted to do was to see what people thought of the idea.

I think its now obvious that it was a bad idea telling you all.

Maybe I should have just done it and secretly sent you all money if it had been a success (or just the board if it was a minor success), or just shut up and kept it a failed experiment if it hadn't been a success.

Maybe I should just do it and if its a success keep all the money anyway...
I mean, what are you guys going to do about it besides bitch and moan and hate me (IF you find out that I did).

But seriously, I'm most likely now not going to a do a thing, and instead of submitting stuff for future IM issues, just try and make my own free magazine and screw the rest of you guys!

Lys, for the most part no one was even addressing your OP, but Cram's post which came after it, and of course Pent's post which came after that.

As far as Intermittens being public domain, that depends with each issue, because if the articles aren't public domain you actually aren't free to do whatever you want with the issue. You would have to discuss the copyright status of each issue with the contributors, as many have made clear (and were clear from the beginning, as with Cain and Roger) that they retain copyrights to their work.

That may be true. But's lets pretend I go ahead and print off and sell them anyway.

What are any of you going to do about it?

[LMNO]

I'LL SHIT MY PANCE!

[That One Guy]

Seriously, Lys? My band has a copyright lawyer handy, and I'd be happy to talk to them and refer anyone who feels the need to them or someone they recommend, whether for US or International copyright issues. Especially if intents, copyrights, and limitations are stated beforehand, what would happen is you'd be sued for damages, the legal fees to resolve those damages far out pacing the profit. However, it's the fucking principle, so - hypothetically of course - lawsuit would most likely move forward.

Why even ask that question (hypothetically or no), especially in light of this thread?