Fuck You, Starbucks

[potato]

selling large volumes of brown swill at a high price  is the industry standard    and overly tattooed and face pierced hipster douche bag working for minimum wage is the "barista" in most coffee shops

the good stuff is made by people that like coffee and make it for themselves

agreed, fomenter! it's a sad decline in civilization, IMO.

[Epimetheus]

If you don't expect them to treat you like shit, you haven't been paying attention for the last 15 years.

Or the last 150 years.

woah, long time no see epi. wb.

Yeah, thanks.

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Undiluted cold-brewed coffee or GTFO.

[Corvidia]

i will concede that once you have had the above combination all else is crap in comparison...

blasphemy!

freshly roasted beans in the hands of a overly tattooed and face pierced hipster douche bag cannot be topped worth the price.

try illy made in a proper machine and get back to me,
i strand by my claim that i have never bought good espresso and that it is all crap in comparison,
  some may be OK in comparison to Starbucks but it would be hard not to be....



fomenter = coffee snob

potato = former barista with really high standards.

tried illy. tried samples from roasters all over the country looking for the best beans. found them, perfected my brew, then set up shop.

my standard for espresso is batdorf and bronson, washington, circa 1985.

"Barista"?

Look, I want a fucking COFFEE.  Maybe even one of those frou-frou Coffees they invented in France on a day where they weren't feeling as full of fail as usual.

So I go to the coffee shop, and I ask the jerk there for a fucking Coffee.  I don't talk to a "barista", whatever the fuck THAT is.  I talk to the fucking COFFEE JERK, just like 50 years ago, I would have talked to the SODA JERK.

And what the FUCK is this bullshit about "standards for expresso"?  It's a fucking COFFEE.  Jesus H Christ.

"Barista" is the pretentious, stupid-ass name for yes, a coffee jerk. It makes them feel better about their ass, pitiful little jobs so let them have it.

Sorry, Potato. What you did is better than a coffee jerk sort of thing.

Undiluted cold-brewed coffee or GTFO.

AMEN.

Espresso is good, if done right. Starbucks machines fuck it up, and it's better if you brew it at home.


Laughtrack
-Quitting Starbucks today and perfectly content to grind her own cheapo beans.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

"Barista"?

Look, I want a fucking COFFEE.  Maybe even one of those frou-frou Coffees they invented in France on a day where they weren't feeling as full of fail as usual.

So I go to the coffee shop, and I ask the jerk there for a fucking Coffee.  I don't talk to a "barista", whatever the fuck THAT is.  I talk to the fucking COFFEE JERK, just like 50 years ago, I would have talked to the SODA JERK.

And what the FUCK is this bullshit about "standards for expresso"?  It's a fucking COFFEE.  Jesus H Christ.

In Portland, "barista" is the word for "coffee jerk", although 17 years ago when I was one, we called ourselves "coffee jerks" to be hip and funny.

[potato]

goddammit its weird how much we have in common.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I know, we even have the same momma! it's crazy

[Penumbral]

Write a book about your plight.

I really don't care, you work there, its your fault.

I didn't care when it was:

[Corvidia]

Write a book about your plight.

I really don't care, you work there, its your fault.

I didn't care when it was:

You're obnoxious.

A) Books have already been written
B)
1. Why the hell did you read the post if you don't care?
2. I no longer work there
C) See B.1

[Penumbral]

You're obnoxious.

A) Books have already been written
B)
1. Why the hell did you read the post if you don't care?
2. I no longer work there
C) See B.1

I am hard pressed to find much of anything I care about yet I like to read.

I do care about not letting myself be controlled by something that I am only doing for a compromise anyway, such as my job. I make great money, and I have a lot of freedom where I work. However I refuse to let my need for comfort and money control my actions, and I will not allow myself to compromise my livelihood (which comes neither from work or money) for a job. Any job.

If one day I loose that determination, and do lie down and allow myself to be taken advantage of by a organization I am helping by working for, then on that day I hope I can be introspective and realize I had a choice in the matter. Just because I chose the less confrontational, and in reality easier, path I still have no reason to bitch about it. How can I in good conscious bitch about something I chose?

I am glad to hear you don't work there. I wish you the best on future job searches.

[Corvidia]

You're obnoxious.

A) Books have already been written
B)
1. Why the hell did you read the post if you don't care?
2. I no longer work there
C) See B.1

I am hard pressed to find much of anything I care about yet I like to read.

Save it for when there's something really worth commenting about, then, yes?

...I make great money, and I have a lot of freedom where I work. However I refuse to let my need for comfort and money control my actions, and I will not allow myself to compromise my livelihood (which comes neither from work or money) for a job. Any job.

Bully for you. You must have some sort of skill that allows you to do that--I can't. My skills are coffee jerk and sales. Dime-a-fucking-dozen. You gotta take the shit until you can either afford an umbrella or get to throw the shit yourself.

If one day I loose that determination, and do lie down and allow myself to be taken advantage of by a organization I am helping by working for, then on that day I hope I can be introspective and realize I had a choice in the matter. Just because I chose the less confrontational, and in reality easier, path I still have no reason to bitch about it. How can I in good conscious bitch about something I chose?

*You* can afford to say that sort of thing. *You* can preach from on high. *I'm* trying to pay for school. There's only so much someone in my position can do. Again, coffee jerks and sales people are a dime a dozen. I'm good, but I'm not Eris's gift to the industry (or not yet). My options are limited. Yours don't sound like they are--or at least to the degree that mine are.
I left when things got bad and I'm pretty happy so far in my new job--I sort games and play Street Fighter and I sell consoles (but mostly I sort and I play).  I didn't take the shit for any longer then it took to realize how bad it had gotten and to find a new job.

It was a decent job up until the last manager--I wasn't high enough corporate shit hit me very much, but I still got decent money. I liked what I did. And then the recession sent the company spinning into hell so I left.

I am glad to hear you don't work there. I wish you the best on future job searches.

Thank you.

[Penumbral]

Save it for when there's something really worth commenting about, then, yes?

I feel that this has become a constructive conversation. I do not regret my comment.

Bully for you. You must have some sort of skill that allows you to do that--I can't. My skills are coffee jerk and sales. Dime-a-fucking-dozen. You gotta take the shit until you can either afford an umbrella or get to throw the shit yourself.

Fair point. It is not some special skill as much as luck and perseverance, but that in no way negates your point. Also I really didn't mean for that to be any bit of a focal point about my argument, or any sort of brag. I was trying to precurs that, yes I do speak from a place of privilege in the matter, and I see that, so I will try to keep *that* bias out of it as much as possible.

*You* can afford to say that sort of thing. *You* can preach from on high. *I'm* trying to pay for school. There's only so much someone in my position can do. Again, coffee jerks and sales people are a dime a dozen. I'm good, but I'm not Eris's gift to the industry (or not yet). My options are limited. Yours don't sound like they are--or at least to the degree that mine are.
I left when things got bad and I'm pretty happy so far in my new job--I sort games and play Street Fighter and I sell consoles (but mostly I sort and I play).  I didn't take the shit for any longer then it took to realize how bad it had gotten and to find a new job.

I do apologise I in no way intended to compare you to me. Just over a year ago I worked in a hellhole of a mall paying for school (I refuse loans.) It was hell, and when I got to the point where I would complain and I felt used I left. (just like it seems you did. Now I suppose I am comparing you and me.) After that I got extremely sick, and ran from state to state trying to find a place I could be ok with. It was awful, I ate poorly, and basically lived where I could. All I was getting at was for me I could deal with that situation a lot better then I could deal with giving myself up to a corporation that I felt devalued me. I could have made a choice to stay, I just feel that if I make such a choice I should no longer complain about it seeing as how I am willingly there. After discussing this we seem to be around the same page, just poor at understanding each other.

But I did find something I like and do well at. If I hadn't I am sure I would still be on the road.

It was a decent job up until the last manager--I wasn't high enough corporate shit hit me very much, but I still got decent money. I liked what I did. And then the recession sent the company spinning into hell so I left.

I understood your original complaint differently. I am completely behind this course of action.

Thank you.

You are welcome, and I meant it.

[Corvidia]

All right then, lol. We are on the same page, now. 
What exactly is it that you do?

[Penumbral]

All right then, lol. We are on the same page, now. 
What exactly is it that you do?

Bartend at a really cool small cafe/bar/theatre.

[Corvidia]

Neat!