Intriguing Idea?

[rubickspoop]

Is this what the NY Times considers an intelligent discussion? Or are they simply showing how retarded religious republicans can be?

http://video.nytimes.com/video/2009/06/26/opinion/1194841209358/bloggingheads-cash-for-babies.html

[Cait M. R.]

Belongs in Apple Talk, I'm sure.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Is this what the NY Times considers an intelligent discussion? Or are they simply showing how retarded religious republicans can be?

http://video.nytimes.com/video/2009/06/26/opinion/1194841209358/bloggingheads-cash-for-babies.html

This section is more for rants, Rube.  You can blow this up into a screeching tirade, or we can move it.

I am considering a political section, though.

[Cait M. R.]

Political section would be awesome.

[rubickspoop]

OK, I guess I'll rant about it, then. The guy on the left is a fucking moron or a huge ass hole. Why the hell would you pay people to have babies?! We already have to many of them! Does he want a world full of incompetent half-tards who can't even read? Oh, yeah, he does! Cheap labor incapable of revolt! Perfect for the machine! Ooooh, surrogate mothers, too! Now rich white women won't even have to endure the pains of childbirth! Poor people can do it for you! What a fucking prick.

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

that's the spirit!!

[Golden Applesauce]

I think that it would be cheaper to outsource our baby producing to countries that already have high birthrates.  Okay, the babies might be a little brown or something but I'm sure that in the interest of cash we can look past that.

Although, that begs the question: why do we want more babies in the first place?  Warfare is less and less reliant on numbers of soldiers, and there's already more than enough cheap labor out there.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I think that it would be cheaper to outsource our baby producing to countries that already have high birthrates.  Okay, the babies might be a little brown or something but I'm sure that in the interest of cash we can look past that.

We can just bleach 'em.  Hey, it works for flour, right?

Although, that begs the question: why do we want more babies in the first place?  Warfare is less and less reliant on numbers of soldiers, and there's already more than enough cheap labor out there.

WRONG.  As Cain will tell you, the days of the techno-soldier are over.  It's back to dumb grunts and the cheapest possible weapons (the RPG may very well be the best weapons system ever, in terms of sheer effectiveness).

[Cain]

Although, of course, we kind of frown on that sort of fighting because its more useful for defending than invading (personally, I lurve teh guerrilla warfare, but that's because you have to be sneaky and smart to be good at it, values I approve of).

Also, lots of babies = lots of little workers which = an ever decreasing cost for production, since everyone is fighting for the same limited jobs.  In fact, as mechanization and robotization of the workplace continues, there will be even less jobs, and making sure you have 20 people fighting for every one position really pushes the wages down.

Of course, the downside is then the other 19 team up with all the other unlucky 19's over the country, start asking uncomfortable questions like "what's a Jacobin" and "how to I operate a guillotine" and overthrow your ass, but that's why we're encouraging religious people to do this, since the sort of religion we mean when we say religion actually means authoritarianism that is grounded towards preservation of the status quo through unthinking acceptance of certain key cultural values like "this is freedom" and "we live in the best country in the world" and "positive thinking and prayer can get me what I want, I'm just not trying hard enough."

And we have wars and TV and debtors jails for those who fail to fall into line.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Of course, the downside is then the other 19 team up with all the other unlucky 19's over the country, start asking uncomfortable questions like "what's a Jacobin" and "how to I operate a guillotine" and overthrow your ass,

I just horked up coffee through my nose, which is now bleeding.  You bastard.

TGRR,
Has teh Cain Stigmata.

[rubickspoop]

Of course, the downside is then the other 19 team up with all the other unlucky 19's over the country, start asking uncomfortable questions like "what's a Jacobin" and "how to I operate a guillotine" and overthrow your ass, but that's why we're encouraging religious people to do this, since the sort of religion we mean when we say religion actually means authoritarianism that is grounded towards preservation of the status quo through unthinking acceptance of certain key cultural values like "this is freedom" and "we live in the best country in the world" and "positive thinking and prayer can get me what I want, I'm just not trying hard enough."

And we have wars and TV and debtors jails for those who fail to fall into line.

The power of religion in western civ. has been waning since the protestant revolution. If marijuana is ever legalized in the US, the gov't won't be able to lock up social deviants as easily. And if rich white people start buying kids, I think it will help prove how out of touch the ruling class is with the nature of reality for us schmucks. I think our future may just have another revolution in the short term. I'm sure the feds will come up with new ways to keep us in line, but we can always hope.

[Cain]

Of course, the downside is then the other 19 team up with all the other unlucky 19's over the country, start asking uncomfortable questions like "what's a Jacobin" and "how to I operate a guillotine" and overthrow your ass,

I just horked up coffee through my nose, which is now bleeding.  You bastard.

TGRR,
Has teh Cain Stigmata.

[Cain]

The power of religion in western civ. has been waning since the protestant revolution.

If marijuana is ever legalized in the US, the gov't won't be able to lock up social deviants as easily.

And if rich white people start buying kids, I think it will help prove how out of touch the ruling class is with the nature of reality for us schmucks.

[Jenne]

Of course, the downside is then the other 19 team up with all the other unlucky 19's over the country, start asking uncomfortable questions like "what's a Jacobin" and "how to I operate a guillotine" and overthrow your ass, but that's why we're encouraging religious people to do this, since the sort of religion we mean when we say religion actually means authoritarianism that is grounded towards preservation of the status quo through unthinking acceptance of certain key cultural values like "this is freedom" and "we live in the best country in the world" and "positive thinking and prayer can get me what I want, I'm just not trying hard enough."

And we have wars and TV and debtors jails for those who fail to fall into line.

The power of religion in western civ. has been waning since the protestant revolution. If marijuana is ever legalized in the US, the gov't won't be able to lock up social deviants as easily. And if rich white people start buying kids, I think it will help prove how out of touch the ruling class is with the nature of reality for us schmucks. I think our future may just have another revolution in the short term. I'm sure the feds will come up with new ways to keep us in line, but we can always hope.

Where are you located in the US, again?  You sound like you don't know the Midwest and the South and those who dwell there very well...

[Cain]

Given the biggest piece of corporate looting in history happened just last year, and the best that could be done was people putting on protests where they dunked teabags into hot water (by people who think that those at the top should be richer and have even less restraints), I believe that Jack Welch could eat a live baby on air and go "yummy", and still be feted by the media, and society at large, as a visionary genius.

Hell, Madonna and Angelina Jolie et al go off baby shopping and are applauded for it already.