An experiment with Babylon and LMNO

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Speaking of reductionist worldviews...

It seems the debate method de jour around here lately, I figured I might as well avail myself of it

++approving the conditions under which a test will take place.++

This is the +5 magic club that Randi wields.

Nope there's no such thing as anything that can't be easily cataloged and explained... haven't you been reading the really real Discordian view of Magic Telarus? It's not real, doesn't exist and there's nothing more to talk about. 

If your magical powers suddenly don't work any time they are placed under scrutiny then they aren't very useful in the real world, are they? Sure you can find all kinds of ways to mindfuck yourself and make yourself think that you are riding a unicorn with Jesus but that doesn't do anything to the objective world.

Magic is real for very narrow definitions of "magic" and "real".

Sure, because riding a unicorn with Jesus is ther sort of 'magic' that people like Mang, Telarus, Me and most other sane people that play around in that model are trying to do.

Useless debate is useless.... Its obvious that one should not risk thinking for themselves on this topic and should instead stick with their comfort zones, beliefs about reality and dogmatic ideas about what Magic is or isn't.

But that's not what this particular experiment is about, now is it? It's not about your definition of magic, and it's not about you.

Imagine that.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Speaking of reductionist worldviews...

It seems the debate method de jour around here lately, I figured I might as well avail myself of it

++approving the conditions under which a test will take place.++

This is the +5 magic club that Randi wields.

Nope there's no such thing as anything that can't be easily cataloged and explained... haven't you been reading the really real Discordian view of Magic Telarus? It's not real, doesn't exist and there's nothing more to talk about. 

If your magical powers suddenly don't work any time they are placed under scrutiny then they aren't very useful in the real world, are they? Sure you can find all kinds of ways to mindfuck yourself and make yourself think that you are riding a unicorn with Jesus but that doesn't do anything to the objective world.

Magic is real for very narrow definitions of "magic" and "real".

Sure, because riding a unicorn with Jesus is ther sort of 'magic' that people like Mang, Telarus, Me and most other sane people that play around in that model are trying to do.

Useless debate is useless.... Its obvious that one should not risk thinking for themselves on this topic and should instead stick with their comfort zones, beliefs about reality and dogmatic ideas about what Magic is or isn't.

But that's not what this particular experiment is about, now is it? It's not about your definition of magic, and it's not about you.

Imagine that.

Everything is about Ratatosk.  Everything.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Useless debate is useless.... Its obvious that one should not risk thinking for themselves on this topic and should instead stick with their comfort zones, beliefs about reality and dogmatic ideas about what Magic is or isn't.

Keeping an open mind does not mean letting your brain fall out.

[Faust]

Anyway, if you want to do this again, I have a better method for 66% using tarot cards.  Let me know.

I'd like to try this using the pendulum method to test the cards. I claim no clairvoyant ability and maintain that the pendulum only gives you back your subconscious opinion but I think it would be fun to do.

Also I refuse to believe  in any of this until it has been tested and proven to 6sigma accuracy.

Sorry everyone for not managing to pull impressive magic out.  Not that it is any real excuse but I was at the beginning of one of the worst bouts of physical illness I can remember.

Well I am glad to see that Voodoo still works.

[Golden Applesauce]

++approving the conditions under which a test will take place.++

This is the +5 magic club that Randi wields.

Nope there's no such thing as anything that can't be easily cataloged and explained... haven't you been reading the really real Discordian view of Magic Telarus? It's not real, doesn't exist and there's nothing more to talk about. 

If your magical powers suddenly don't work any time they are placed under scrutiny then they aren't very useful in the real world, are they? Sure you can find all kinds of ways to mindfuck yourself and make yourself think that you are riding a unicorn with Jesus but that doesn't do anything to the objective world.

Magic is real for very narrow definitions of "magic" and "real".

More important than the question of whether or not something works in the "objective world" is the question of "which world do I live in?"

[LMNO]

Sorry everyone for not managing to pull impressive magic out.  Not that it is any real excuse but I was at the beginning of one of the worst bouts of physical illness I can remember.

Well I am glad to see that Voodoo still works.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Speaking of reductionist worldviews...

It seems the debate method de jour around here lately, I figured I might as well avail myself of it

++approving the conditions under which a test will take place.++

This is the +5 magic club that Randi wields.

Nope there's no such thing as anything that can't be easily cataloged and explained... haven't you been reading the really real Discordian view of Magic Telarus? It's not real, doesn't exist and there's nothing more to talk about. 

If your magical powers suddenly don't work any time they are placed under scrutiny then they aren't very useful in the real world, are they? Sure you can find all kinds of ways to mindfuck yourself and make yourself think that you are riding a unicorn with Jesus but that doesn't do anything to the objective world.

Magic is real for very narrow definitions of "magic" and "real".

Sure, because riding a unicorn with Jesus is ther sort of 'magic' that people like Mang, Telarus, Me and most other sane people that play around in that model are trying to do.

Useless debate is useless.... Its obvious that one should not risk thinking for themselves on this topic and should instead stick with their comfort zones, beliefs about reality and dogmatic ideas about what Magic is or isn't.

But that's not what this particular experiment is about, now is it? It's not about your definition of magic, and it's not about you.

Imagine that.

OMGZ! And this little conversartion is not directly related to the general discussion here... threaddrift doesn't always stay on topic... Imagine That!

Useless debate is useless.... Its obvious that one should not risk thinking for themselves on this topic and should instead stick with their comfort zones, beliefs about reality and dogmatic ideas about what Magic is or isn't.

Keeping an open mind does not mean letting your brain fall out.

Repeating stupid cliches doesn't mean you think for yourself.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Speaking of reductionist worldviews...

It seems the debate method de jour around here lately, I figured I might as well avail myself of it

++approving the conditions under which a test will take place.++

This is the +5 magic club that Randi wields.

Nope there's no such thing as anything that can't be easily cataloged and explained... haven't you been reading the really real Discordian view of Magic Telarus? It's not real, doesn't exist and there's nothing more to talk about. 

If your magical powers suddenly don't work any time they are placed under scrutiny then they aren't very useful in the real world, are they? Sure you can find all kinds of ways to mindfuck yourself and make yourself think that you are riding a unicorn with Jesus but that doesn't do anything to the objective world.

Magic is real for very narrow definitions of "magic" and "real".

Sure, because riding a unicorn with Jesus is ther sort of 'magic' that people like Mang, Telarus, Me and most other sane people that play around in that model are trying to do.

Useless debate is useless.... Its obvious that one should not risk thinking for themselves on this topic and should instead stick with their comfort zones, beliefs about reality and dogmatic ideas about what Magic is or isn't.

But that's not what this particular experiment is about, now is it? It's not about your definition of magic, and it's not about you.

Imagine that.

OMGZ! And this little conversartion is not directly related to the general discussion here... threaddrift doesn't always stay on topic... Imagine That!

This wasn't "drift" as much as it was you trying to pry it with a crowbar.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Speaking of reductionist worldviews...

It seems the debate method de jour around here lately, I figured I might as well avail myself of it

++approving the conditions under which a test will take place.++

This is the +5 magic club that Randi wields.

Nope there's no such thing as anything that can't be easily cataloged and explained... haven't you been reading the really real Discordian view of Magic Telarus? It's not real, doesn't exist and there's nothing more to talk about. 

If your magical powers suddenly don't work any time they are placed under scrutiny then they aren't very useful in the real world, are they? Sure you can find all kinds of ways to mindfuck yourself and make yourself think that you are riding a unicorn with Jesus but that doesn't do anything to the objective world.

Magic is real for very narrow definitions of "magic" and "real".

Sure, because riding a unicorn with Jesus is ther sort of 'magic' that people like Mang, Telarus, Me and most other sane people that play around in that model are trying to do.

Useless debate is useless.... Its obvious that one should not risk thinking for themselves on this topic and should instead stick with their comfort zones, beliefs about reality and dogmatic ideas about what Magic is or isn't.

But that's not what this particular experiment is about, now is it? It's not about your definition of magic, and it's not about you.

Imagine that.

OMGZ! And this little conversartion is not directly related to the general discussion here... threaddrift doesn't always stay on topic... Imagine That!

This wasn't "drift" as much as it was you trying to pry it with a crowbar.

Funny, looks to me like a comment spun from comments about James Randi and Cain's little barb about Jesus and Unicorns (neither of which Babylon mentioned... unless I missed something).

You can, of course, see whatever you like, Nigel.

[LMNO]

Hey!  Get your opinions out of my science experiment!

[Cain]

Funny, looks to me like a comment spun from comments about James Randi and Cain's little barb about Jesus and Unicorns (neither of which Babylon mentioned... unless I missed something).

You can, of course, see whatever you like, Nigel.

Speaking of people who see whatever they like...

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

This thread is now successfully about  Ratatosk taking something personally.

Whatever it is.

[Cain]

My non-existant barbs concerning Jesus and Unicorns, I think.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

 

[BabylonHoruv]

Anyway, if you want to do this again, I have a better method for 66% using tarot cards.  Let me know.

I'd like to try this using the pendulum method to test the cards. I claim no clairvoyant ability and maintain that the pendulum only gives you back your subconscious opinion but I think it would be fun to do.

Also I refuse to believe  in any of this until it has been tested and proven to 6sigma accuracy.

Sorry everyone for not managing to pull impressive magic out.  Not that it is any real excuse but I was at the beginning of one of the worst bouts of physical illness I can remember.

Well I am glad to see that Voodoo still works.

You voodoo'd me? oh you bitch.