Why is Discordia Irrelevant in the Year 2009?

[hooplala]

Ah, well that is different.  Up here in Canada we just call them assholes.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

people usually hate on upper-east-coast-intellectual-elitism - which is just a manifestation of a larger metrocentric form of condescending wankery

I wanted to point out that this is a totally legit thing to be annoyed by, it's not just intellectual elitism, it's that a lot of people from large cities think they're the center of the civilized universe and everybody else is rednecks and barbarians

Actually, it's really the East Coast that's civilized.  Out West, the vast majority of the population are knuckle-dragging yahoos that think Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin walk on water...Even the "educated" population.

I've lived on the East Coast, the Midwest, and out in this hellhole, and believe me when I say I know what I'm talking about.  70% of East coasters might be guidos, hipsters, and angry old millwrights, but 99.5% of Utah, Arizona, and New Mexico are dittoheads with about 3 brain cells between them.

So fuck 'em.  Let 'em hate.  It's not like I don't hate them.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

As usual, there is a problem of definitions here.

While technically you can use "elite" to mean a small group of people who have superior skills in a specific area of knowledge, it appears to me that when used as an epithet, most people intend it to mean a person who, having been skilled in one area of knowledge, suddenly thinks and acts as if they have equally skilled knowledge of all other disciplines.

Or to put it in more graphic terms, a linguistics professor who tells a plumber the best way to snake a drain.

We call that "Mike the engineer". 

[Cramulus]

My example was meant to illustrate that even though I can see the tappan zee bridge from my house, people from NYC consider this "upstate," a worthless country full of sheep and yokels, containing nothing worth visiting. When people complain about NYC elitism, they're not complaining about people from NYC or Boston being smarter or more well-mannered, they're complaining about them being condescending pricks obsessed with how important and relevant they think they are. If you're a bigshot in some NYC punk scene, you assume that you're the king of the global punk scene. It's a lot of "big fish in a small pond" syndrome except that it's a large pond that people frequently confuse with the ocean.

/tangent

[The Good Reverend Roger]

My example was meant to illustrate that even though I can see the tappan zee bridge from my house, people from NYC consider this "upstate," a worthless country full of sheep and yokels, containing nothing worth visiting. When people complain about NYC elitism, they're not complaining about people from NYC or Boston being smarter or more well-mannered, they're complaining about them being condescending pricks obsessed with how important and relevant they think they are. If you're a bigshot in some NYC punk scene, you assume that you're the king of the global punk scene. It's a lot of "big fish in a small pond" syndrome except that it's a large pond that people frequently confuse with the ocean.

/tangent

It sounds like what we have here is a conflict of terminology.

[hooplala]

My example was meant to illustrate that even though I can see the tappan zee bridge from my house, people from NYC consider this "upstate," a worthless country full of sheep and yokels, containing nothing worth visiting. When people complain about NYC elitism, they're not complaining about people from NYC or Boston being smarter or more well-mannered, they're complaining about them being condescending pricks obsessed with how important and relevant they think they are. If you're a bigshot in some NYC punk scene, you assume that you're the king of the global punk scene. It's a lot of "big fish in a small pond" syndrome except that it's a large pond that people frequently confuse with the ocean.

/tangent

Now you're just starting to sound bitter.  I've never been to Westchester, so I can't say whether it sucks more than NYC or not, but consider this... many people choose to spend vacation time in NYC, how many choose Westchester?  

Toronto (as sucky as it is) gets this from all its surrounding neighbors too, Scarborough, Mississauga, North York, and a bunch of other places you've never heard of.  Know why you haven't heard of them?  Because they are pretty drab and carry nothing you can't find in a hundred other similar big-city backpacks.

One you've seen one street that has a McDonalds, Wendys, Burger King, Dairy Queen, Arby's, White Castle, etc littering both sides of the street I will go out on a limb and say you've seen them all.  It's as if Kissimme exploded over every suburb in the world.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

My example was meant to illustrate that even though I can see the tappan zee bridge from my house, people from NYC consider this "upstate," a worthless country full of sheep and yokels, containing nothing worth visiting. When people complain about NYC elitism, they're not complaining about people from NYC or Boston being smarter or more well-mannered, they're complaining about them being condescending pricks obsessed with how important and relevant they think they are. If you're a bigshot in some NYC punk scene, you assume that you're the king of the global punk scene. It's a lot of "big fish in a small pond" syndrome except that it's a large pond that people frequently confuse with the ocean.

/tangent

Now you're just starting to sound bitter.  I've never been to Westchester, so I can't say whether it sucks more than NYC or not, but consider this... many people choose to spend vacation time in NYC, how many choose Westchester?  

Toronto (as sucky as it is) gets this from all its surrounding neighbors too, Scarborough, Mississauga, North York, and a bunch of other places you've never heard of.  Know why you haven't heard of them?  Because they are pretty drab and carry nothing you can't find in a hundred other similar big-city backpacks.

One you've seen one street that has a McDonalds, Wendys, Burger King, Dairy Queen, Arby's, White Castle, etc littering both sides of the street I will go out on a limb and say you've seen them all.  It's as if Kissimme exploded over every suburb in the world.

I think I covered this in "The Monoculture".

[hooplala]

Reading that last post back, it occurs to me that it might not come across quite as tongue-in-cheek as I intended it... please rest assured I was mostly joking and think suburbs are adorable and harmless.

[hooplala]

My example was meant to illustrate that even though I can see the tappan zee bridge from my house, people from NYC consider this "upstate," a worthless country full of sheep and yokels, containing nothing worth visiting. When people complain about NYC elitism, they're not complaining about people from NYC or Boston being smarter or more well-mannered, they're complaining about them being condescending pricks obsessed with how important and relevant they think they are. If you're a bigshot in some NYC punk scene, you assume that you're the king of the global punk scene. It's a lot of "big fish in a small pond" syndrome except that it's a large pond that people frequently confuse with the ocean.

/tangent

Now you're just starting to sound bitter.  I've never been to Westchester, so I can't say whether it sucks more than NYC or not, but consider this... many people choose to spend vacation time in NYC, how many choose Westchester?  

Toronto (as sucky as it is) gets this from all its surrounding neighbors too, Scarborough, Mississauga, North York, and a bunch of other places you've never heard of.  Know why you haven't heard of them?  Because they are pretty drab and carry nothing you can't find in a hundred other similar big-city backpacks.

One you've seen one street that has a McDonalds, Wendys, Burger King, Dairy Queen, Arby's, White Castle, etc littering both sides of the street I will go out on a limb and say you've seen them all.  It's as if Kissimme exploded over every suburb in the world.

I think I covered this in "The Monoculture".

That too.  I blame tv and the internet.  With one hand it steals the Baltimore accent and with the other gives us Krispy Kreme donuts.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Reading that last post back, it occurs to me that it might not come across quite as tongue-in-cheek as I intended it... please rest assured I was mostly joking and think suburbs are adorable and harmless.

In my experience, they're the wrong end of town.

[Freeky]

Reading that last post back, it occurs to me that it might not come across quite as tongue-in-cheek as I intended it... please rest assured I was mostly joking and think suburbs are adorable and harmless.

In my experience, they're the wrong end of town.

Quiet Suburbia is just a nightmare waiting to happen.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

I live in Wyoming. I live in the biggest town in this state, and it's really just a suburb lost in the middle of a prairie, with no city to attach to. Culturally... there is no culture in places like this. The closest thing we have to culture is the shit in the tourist shops that make a mockery of historical events, just to have something to sell.

[Requia ☣]

What happened to selling booze porn and fireworks to Utahns?  Or are you on the wrong side of the state for that.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

What happened to selling booze porn and fireworks to Utahns?  Or are you on the wrong side of the state for that.

Wrong side of the state.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

What happened to selling booze porn and fireworks to Utahns?  Or are you on the wrong side of the state for that.

Wrong side of the state.

I thought Wyoming only had one side.