Conservative Bible Project

[Iason Ouabache]

From everybody's favorite "Trustworthy" Encyclopedia.

http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project

Liberal bias has become the single biggest distortion in modern Bible translations. There are three sources of errors in conveying biblical meaning:

    * lack of precision in the original language, such as terms underdeveloped to convey new concepts of Christianity
    * lack of precision in modern language
    * translation bias in converting the original language to the modern one.

Of these three sources of errors, the last introduces the largest error, and the biggest component of that error is liberal bias. Large reductions in this error can be attained simply by retranslating the KJV into modern English.[1]

As of 2009, there is no fully conservative translation of the Bible which satisfies the following ten guidelines:[2]

       1. Framework against Liberal Bias: providing a strong framework that enables a thought-for-thought translation without corruption by liberal bias
       2. Not Emasculated: avoiding unisex, "gender inclusive" language, and other modern emasculation of Christianity
       3. Not Dumbed Down: not dumbing down the reading level, or diluting the intellectual force and logic of Christianity; the NIV is written at only the 7th grade level[3]
       4. Utilize Powerful Conservative Terms: using powerful new conservative terms as they develop;[4] defective translations use the word "comrade" three times as often as "volunteer"; similarly, updating words which have a change in meaning, such as "word", "peace", and "miracle".
       5. Combat Harmful Addiction: combating addiction by using modern terms for it, such as "gamble" rather than "cast lots";[5] using modern political terms, such as "register" rather than "enroll" for the census
       6. Accept the Logic of Hell: applying logic with its full force and effect, as in not denying or downplaying the very real existence of Hell or the Devil.
       7. Express Free Market Parables; explaining the numerous economic parables with their full free-market meaning
       8. Exclude Later-Inserted Liberal Passages: excluding the later-inserted liberal passages that are not authentic, such as the adulteress story
       9. Credit Open-Mindedness of Disciples: crediting open-mindedness, often found in youngsters like the eyewitnesses Mark and John, the authors of two of the Gospels
      10. Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness: preferring conciseness to the liberal style of high word-to-substance ratio; avoid compound negatives and unnecessary ambiguities; prefer concise, consistent use of the word "Lord" rather than "Jehovah" or "Yahweh" or "Lord God."

  It's like they are parodying themselves now.

[LMNO]

"It would be more accurate to update the King James version than to work from older texts."
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[The Good Reverend Roger]

Isn't there a commandment about taking the Lord's name in vain (ie, saying that he said things that he didn't say)?

[Kurt Christ]

Isn't there a commandment about taking the Lord's name in vain (ie, saying that he said things that he didn't say)?

Not once they're done!

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Isn't there a commandment about taking the Lord's name in vain (ie, saying that he said things that he didn't say)?

Not once they're done!

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

10. Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness: preferring conciseness to the liberal style of high word-to-substance ratio; avoid compound negatives and unnecessary ambiguities; prefer concise, consistent use of the word "Lord" rather than "Jehovah" or "Yahweh" or "Lord God."

Right, because God doesn't want us to use His Name... even though he gave it to us. I much prefer being called Mister, Man or Senior Data Security Analyst rather than 'Clyde'. Esp from people hoping to have a personal relationship with me.

Of course, what is really funny is that in the KJV "Lord" never refers to God/YHVY. God/YHVH is always noted as LORD (or in four places 'Jehovah'). Lord is used in the bible to refer to human rulers like David and as a term for Jesus. Jesus and humans are never "LORD" and God is never "Lord". The reason this difference exists in the KJV is because the difference exists in the historical manuscripts using the Tetragrammaton or other identifier to differentiate between the Supreme Being and others.

Not to mention that Hell as a burning place of fiery torment s not supported in the Bible unless you misread several passages.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

10. Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness: preferring conciseness to the liberal style of high word-to-substance ratio; avoid compound negatives and unnecessary ambiguities; prefer concise, consistent use of the word "Lord" rather than "Jehovah" or "Yahweh" or "Lord God."

Right, because God doesn't want us to use His Name... even though he gave it to us. I much prefer being called Mister, Man or Senior Data Security Analyst rather than 'Clyde'. Esp from people hoping to have a personal relationship with me.

Of course, what is really funny is that in the KJV "Lord" never refers to God/YHVY. God/YHVH is always noted as LORD (or in four places 'Jehovah'). Lord is used in the bible to refer to human rulers like David and as a term for Jesus. Jesus and humans are never "LORD" and God is never "Lord". The reason this difference exists in the KJV is because the difference exists in the historical manuscripts using the Tetragrammaton or other identifier to differentiate between the Supreme Being and others.

Not to mention that Hell as a burning place of fiery torment s not supported in the Bible unless you misread several passages.

The way I read it, it's "eternal death", ie, the cessation of existence.

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Isn't there a commandment about taking the Lord's name in vain (ie, saying that he said things that he didn't say)?

Saying he said thing he didn't say.
Saying conclusions apply when the hypotheses aren't true in a given case.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

10. Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness: preferring conciseness to the liberal style of high word-to-substance ratio; avoid compound negatives and unnecessary ambiguities; prefer concise, consistent use of the word "Lord" rather than "Jehovah" or "Yahweh" or "Lord God."

Right, because God doesn't want us to use His Name... even though he gave it to us. I much prefer being called Mister, Man or Senior Data Security Analyst rather than 'Clyde'. Esp from people hoping to have a personal relationship with me.

Of course, what is really funny is that in the KJV "Lord" never refers to God/YHVY. God/YHVH is always noted as LORD (or in four places 'Jehovah'). Lord is used in the bible to refer to human rulers like David and as a term for Jesus. Jesus and humans are never "LORD" and God is never "Lord". The reason this difference exists in the KJV is because the difference exists in the historical manuscripts using the Tetragrammaton or other identifier to differentiate between the Supreme Being and others.

Not to mention that Hell as a burning place of fiery torment s not supported in the Bible unless you misread several passages.

The way I read it, it's "eternal death", ie, the cessation of existence.

Since the Hebrews did not believe in an immortal soul, YOU ARE CORRECT!
Solomon stated that 'The Dead are conscious of nothing', that they 'return to the dust'.  In Revelation after the final battle "Death and Hell" are thrown into the "Lake of Fire" which symbolizes Death and the Grave being destroyed forever... not eternal torment.

The concept of Hell as fiery torment didn't become official doctribe  until the Nicene Council.

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10. Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness: preferring conciseness to the liberal style of high word-to-substance ratio; avoid compound negatives and unnecessary ambiguities; prefer concise, consistent use of the word "Lord" rather than "Jehovah" or "Yahweh" or "Lord God."

Right, because God doesn't want us to use His Name... even though he gave it to us. I much prefer being called Mister, Man or Senior Data Security Analyst rather than 'Clyde'. Esp from people hoping to have a personal relationship with me.

Of course, what is really funny is that in the KJV "Lord" never refers to God/YHVY. God/YHVH is always noted as LORD (or in four places 'Jehovah'). Lord is used in the bible to refer to human rulers like David and as a term for Jesus. Jesus and humans are never "LORD" and God is never "Lord". The reason this difference exists in the KJV is because the difference exists in the historical manuscripts using the Tetragrammaton or other identifier to differentiate between the Supreme Being and others.

Not to mention that Hell as a burning place of fiery torment s not supported in the Bible unless you misread several passages.

The way I read it, it's "eternal death", ie, the cessation of existence.

Actually, that's standard death.  The dead may be resurrected, but there's no particular anything for everybody in the meantime.

Like the Greek shades, they might as well be on tape backup.

[Precious Moments Zalgo]

Why the   ?  This seems like pure   to me.

"How conservative are we?  We're so conservative that we're going to radically alter our own holy text to make it say what we want it to say."

I wonder if they are aware that there is already a Bible translation called A Conservative Version (ACV).  Of course, it's conservative in translation philosophy rather than being rewritten to espouse neo-conservative political bias, so it wouldn't suit conservapedia's needs.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

10. Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness: preferring conciseness to the liberal style of high word-to-substance ratio; avoid compound negatives and unnecessary ambiguities; prefer concise, consistent use of the word "Lord" rather than "Jehovah" or "Yahweh" or "Lord God."

Right, because God doesn't want us to use His Name... even though he gave it to us. I much prefer being called Mister, Man or Senior Data Security Analyst rather than 'Clyde'. Esp from people hoping to have a personal relationship with me.

Of course, what is really funny is that in the KJV "Lord" never refers to God/YHVY. God/YHVH is always noted as LORD (or in four places 'Jehovah'). Lord is used in the bible to refer to human rulers like David and as a term for Jesus. Jesus and humans are never "LORD" and God is never "Lord". The reason this difference exists in the KJV is because the difference exists in the historical manuscripts using the Tetragrammaton or other identifier to differentiate between the Supreme Being and others.

Not to mention that Hell as a burning place of fiery torment s not supported in the Bible unless you misread several passages.

The way I read it, it's "eternal death", ie, the cessation of existence.

Actually, that's standard death.  The dead may be resurrected, but there's no particular anything for everybody in the meantime.

Like the Greek shades, they might as well be on tape backup.

Yes, the Christian Greek Scriptures introduced the idea of Second Death. Which was you're dead, but God will ressurect you, judge you and then maybe kill you again forever.

God is kinda wishy washy sometimes.

[Cain]

The Movement is becoming more Stalinist every day.

Not content with rewriting history, science and philosophy for their own benefit, they are now going to alter one of their supposedly foundational texts, because it doesn't match up to what they promote, instead of perhaps rethinking their basic assumptions.

[AFK]

So are they going to recast all of the characters as old white guys? 

[LMNO]

One of my first headsplody moments on the internets was an xtian who was somehow convinced that there was only one bible, and it was in english, and it was perfect recording of Christ's exact words.