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Re: Film Flam
« Reply #840 on: July 22, 2020, 07:03:08 pm »
So, I have recently been watching Narcos: Mexico on Netflix, and I have questions.

Well, mostly one question really: how long is this planned to go on for? Starting with the formation of the Guadalajara cartel and making Kiki Camarena the focus point of the first season is a good starting point, don't get me wrong. But it's the mid-1980s in season 2, and from what I'm seeing (I'm only a few episodes in) this is dealing with the alliance with the Gulf Cartel and probably leading up to Gallardo's arrest.

Which would bring the timeline up to 1989 for the end of the season.

Given the drug war is still going on right now, and the factions involved can be traced directly back to the Guadalajara cartel's business model, I'm curious where they see this series ending up. Chapo's obviously intended to have a big role, but that story takes the timeline up to 2016 on its own. A lot happened between 1989 and 2016, including the formation of new cartels and paramilitarised "patriotic" groups to fight them, the formation of Los Zetas and their defection from the Gulf Cartel, and the ultimate rise of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel once Chapo was extradited.

That's...a lot of seasons.

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« Reply #841 on: July 29, 2020, 08:22:49 pm »
"Gee that hurt, Doc.  That hurt plenty."

"This place is full of pain, Calypso.  You're hurt, Collins... Collins and Munsey are dead, and the others...all those others.  Why do they do it?  They never get away with it.  Alcatraz, Atlanta, Leavenworth...  It's been tried in a hundred ways from as many places.  It always fails.  But they keep trying.  Why do they do it?"

"I don't know, Doc.  But whenever you got men in prison, they're gonna want to get out."

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Re: Film Flam
« Reply #842 on: August 01, 2020, 10:03:23 pm »

"Natural Born Killers"

"The City of Lost Children"

"Die Nibelungen"


i know theres some more i like, but i always have a hard time remembering. (I have more of a musical memory)

I love the last one, would recommend it

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Re: Film Flam
« Reply #843 on: August 07, 2020, 07:06:16 am »
Keeping it classic, xUnbelievable, because Snoop

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« Reply #844 on: August 08, 2020, 01:07:00 am »
I have to say, even if I'm kinda "meh" on Doom Patrol so far, I do love Alan Tudyk in a villainous role. In Justified he was the incredibly scary Detroit mafia hitman, Elias Marcos, and even though he was only in a single episode his menacing performance made him one of the most notable characters in the series. Mr Nobody's a very different kind of villain, more chaotic and even whimsical at times, but they both share a certain chilling edge that Tudyk brings to these roles, so I'm happy to keep watching.

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« Reply #845 on: August 08, 2020, 01:16:42 am »
Mr Nobody is a really nice guy, and has legitimate complaints.

Season 1, the writing was up and down with each episode. There are great bits, and some really lame bits. Still glad they worked in animal-vegitable-mineral man. Mr nobody's stories in the comics were my favourite, it was hard to surpass that and isnt entirely successful

Season 2, every episode is well written and is part of a coherent overall story, I wasnt that into the dorothy character in the comics, the tv show surpasses the comic portrayal.
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« Reply #846 on: August 08, 2020, 01:29:40 am »
I've never read the comics, though knowing Grant Morrison's other work I probably don't need to. So far I'm only halfway through season 1, so I'm glad to hear the writing improves - the stuff with Larry seems fairly good, if perhaps slightly overemphasised when compared to Rita and Jane, but hopefully that's just a consequence of where I am in the season, and those two will get more time as things go on.

I can certainly believe Mr Nobody is nicer than Elias Marcos, at least. That dude has absolutely zero chill...a shame there's not a Youtube clip of the diner scene, for a guy I last saw in Firefly he made a hell of a convincing mob gunman.

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« Reply #847 on: August 08, 2020, 12:21:02 pm »
Ah excellent if you havent read the comics, the first season largely introduces the characters, and builds on them as it goes. Rita is a slow burn, though her story is gradually coming forth in season 2.
What I like and didnt expect was that they do fill in a lot of the time frame, rita larry and jane have been kicking about since the 50s or 60s
Theve all seen some shit
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Re: Film Flam
« Reply #848 on: August 08, 2020, 03:04:49 pm »
Incidentally, I tried to upload the diner scene clip I mentioned so now Sony have slapped a content claim notification on me for a 5 minute clip and are probably gonna delete my Youtube account.

I'm disputing it under Fair Use, but it's Sony so, you know.

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« Reply #849 on: August 08, 2020, 11:04:25 pm »
jesus christ that was fast, I have heard its all automated flagging requests now, there really needs to be a viable alternative to youtube, because the app is worthless, and the site itself is far too intertwined with google accounts for my liking.
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Re: Film Flam
« Reply #850 on: September 16, 2020, 09:14:14 pm »
Re: “Meh” I think it was this latest season of doom patrol, had some sort of Jack the Ripper episode that was rather chilling, for me.

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« Reply #851 on: September 18, 2020, 07:02:29 pm »
Also, let’s see, what’s for lunch... “Dust” series on YouTube has a few good ones, “Control-Z” being as good a place as any to start.