Suu's typical rant on how you should properly tip your waitstaff.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Or, go to Tim Hortons and put your spare change in the donation box for needy kids.  That's what I do.  

I donate to cancer research every time I buy groceries... therefore I should stop tipping in restaurants? Hey Suu, that makes sense, doesn't it?  

I don't think that's the point he's making. I think he's saying instead of giving your tip to the folks behind the counter at Timmy Hoho's (that's what we call it round these parts), you just put it in the Jimmy Fund box instead. But since the Jimmy Fund has such a profound impact on most of New England as the top charity, it's just the norm. Some places like that around here don't even have a tip jar, just the Jimmy Fund box. I'm sure that RWHN still tips his servers.

I'm guilty, I don't always tip the counter folk at Dunkin, mostly because I KNOW that Dunkin starts their employees at 9 and change with fantastic benefits. However, if I do get exceptional service then yeah, they're getting a buck (I won't tip less than that because it makes me feel like shit). Once I became a regular at one store, the ladies knew me, saw me, and had my coffee ready and waiting by the time I got to the counter. In my opinion that goes above and beyond for anyone working at Dunkin Donuts, and they knew I'd toss them a buck too, which was a form of insurance that I would get first class service every time.

I can't say that I've always gotten great service at Starbucks as rarely as I go there, but for $4+ for a cup of whatever I'm getting, I better get good service. They also are known for paying their baristas exceptionally well.

The servers and bartenders in actual sit-down dining establishments here are who get the short end of the stick, and for a state that is known internationally for some of the best restaurants, you'd think they'd take a bit more pride in how they treat their food service workers, but that's RI for ya, if they aren't getting a kick-back in some shape or form, no one will bother fixing the problem.

I take goo care of my servers.  Hey, the whole reason we go out is so we don't have to cook and do the dishes.  So yeah, I make sure they get the scratch they've earned.  Butthe coffee shop thing is different.  As Suu points out they're starting off with minimum wage, and a place like Starbucks has traditionally treated their employees pretty well.  I'd much rather throw a buck to a charity in that scenario. 

Man, in Ohio they would throw us in jail if we goo on our servers... 

[Suu]

Maine is the exception to every law.

[AFK]

My fucking 'd' key is going on me!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Or, go to Tim Hortons and put your spare change in the donation box for needy kids.  That's what I do. 

I donate to cancer research every time I buy groceries... therefore I should stop tipping in restaurants? Hey Suu, that makes sense, doesn't it? 

Where did I say anything about not tipping at restaurants?  My comparison is between Tim Hortons and Starbucks.  Not Tim Hortons and Chilis. 

And I'm saying that one has fuck all to do with the other.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

Only ONCE did I have an issue with someone giving me the high-horse attitude and pull the, "Just how hard is your job anyway?" bit. Then she didn't realize how SPICY our entree was, especially when I wouldn't refill her water for a while.

There's ways to get your tables back, and I'll sacrifice a shitty tip for it. None of them are disgusting as what they do in Waiting, but at least I know that movie struck fear into the hearts of many people.

i love that movie, it's awesome. It makes me smile after being 5 years in catering.

I get paid £7 per hour at the sammich bar. I nevar get tips. well there was one time got a fiver, but thats been all.

I always encourage tipping at restaurants anyway, many a time I have told my family off for scrimping on the tips.

[MMIX]

My fucking 'd' key is going on me!

so retune your keyboard . . .

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Semantics games? I expect better of you. Seven is more than a few, in my mind. I knew it was more than four, and "many" was easier than looking it up. Regardless, your argument is irrelevant. Because you are making this argument to someone who lives in a state without server's minimum. Furthermore, the quote you just posted ALSO renders your argument invalid because baristas count as tipped employees.

So, one reason my argument is invalid is because it doesn't apply to 14% of the nation, including the state Suu works in (who, incidentally, started this thread)?  And you call this "semantics"?  Odd, that.

Also, where does it mention barristas are tipped employees?  Glassdoor.com indicates starbucks pays the federal minimum wage, ~$8.00/hr

Your argument is invalid to me. You were arguing with me, not Suu. And getting all semantic about my use of the word "many" was just a red herring.

Regardless of what Starbucks pays (at least $8.40 in Oregon) in states that have servers minimums, if the establishment allows them to accept tips they technically qualify as "tipped employees", don't they?

[LMNO]

Now who's playing with semantics?

[Suu]

CHILDREN!

Don't make me have to turn this car around!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Incidentally, I don't even know what a Tim Hortons is.

My opinions of non-tippers are my own. I place social etiquette high on my scale of values, and I do use it as a barometer of overall classiness. I wouldn't go on a second date with a man who was discourteous or who didn't tip his barista, presuming the barista performed as expected and wasn't slow or rude. That's just me.

[AFK]

Or, go to Tim Hortons and put your spare change in the donation box for needy kids.  That's what I do. 

I donate to cancer research every time I buy groceries... therefore I should stop tipping in restaurants? Hey Suu, that makes sense, doesn't it? 

Where did I say anything about not tipping at restaurants?  My comparison is between Tim Hortons and Starbucks.  Not Tim Hortons and Chilis. 

And I'm saying that one has fuck all to do with the other.

RIght, me throwing in some change to the charity box at Tim Horton's has fuck all to do with whether or not I tip at Chilis. 

[AFK]

Incidentally, I don't even know what a Tim Hortons is.

My opinions of non-tippers are my own. I place social etiquette high on my scale of values, and I do use it as a barometer of overall classiness. I wouldn't go on a second date with a man who was discourteous or who didn't tip his barista, presuming the barista performed as expected and wasn't slow or rude. That's just me.

It's a coffee/donut shop like Dunkin Donuts.  They don't put tip jars out.  But they pay their employees well (for food service) and instead they have donation boxes for charitable organizations. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Now who's playing with semantics?

Are you saying they DON'T qualify as tipped employees? Or that Starbucks is the only place that baristas work? Because you seem to be implying that because Starbucks pays regular minimum wage, all places do.

And this is still just sort of a bullshit distraction from the real topic, anyway. Which is that you should tip people who provide you a service. Valets, porters, and hotel maids make minimum wage... are you against tipping them?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Or, go to Tim Hortons and put your spare change in the donation box for needy kids.  That's what I do. 

I donate to cancer research every time I buy groceries... therefore I should stop tipping in restaurants? Hey Suu, that makes sense, doesn't it? 

Where did I say anything about not tipping at restaurants?  My comparison is between Tim Hortons and Starbucks.  Not Tim Hortons and Chilis. 

And I'm saying that one has fuck all to do with the other.

RIght, me throwing in some change to the charity box at Tim Horton's has fuck all to do with whether or not I tip at Chilis. 

So why even bring it up as an argument against tipping? Some places don't have a tip jar. SO WHAT?

[AFK]

Or, go to Tim Hortons and put your spare change in the donation box for needy kids.  That's what I do. 

I donate to cancer research every time I buy groceries... therefore I should stop tipping in restaurants? Hey Suu, that makes sense, doesn't it? 

Where did I say anything about not tipping at restaurants?  My comparison is between Tim Hortons and Starbucks.  Not Tim Hortons and Chilis. 

And I'm saying that one has fuck all to do with the other.

RIght, me throwing in some change to the charity box at Tim Horton's has fuck all to do with whether or not I tip at Chilis. 

So why even bring it up as an argument against tipping? Some places don't have a tip jar. SO WHAT?

It wasn't an argument.  It was a comment on my behavior that you turned into an argument.