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Suu's typical rant on how you should properly tip your waitstaff.

Started by Suu, November 08, 2009, 06:05:40 AM

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Thurnez Isa

Quote from: LMNO on November 12, 2009, 06:55:37 PM


Whether this is because they the people who decided to legislate this expect them to get voluntary tips or not is beside the point.  The point is that many people who do not tip at restaraunts (outside of the 7 already mentioned) seem to be surprised that the servers only make $2.00 an hour.

is that legal down there?
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Hoopla on November 12, 2009, 06:59:07 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 12, 2009, 06:14:17 PM
Incidentally, I don't even know what a Tim Hortons is.

You just made Leonard Cohen cry.

Yeah, but what doesn't make Leonard Cohen cry?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Suu

Also, you're not missing much with Tim Horton's. Bess Eaton was better.
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Suu

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 12, 2009, 07:01:31 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 12, 2009, 06:55:37 PM


Whether this is because they the people who decided to legislate this expect them to get voluntary tips or not is beside the point.  The point is that many people who do not tip at restaraunts (outside of the 7 already mentioned) seem to be surprised that the servers only make $2.00 an hour.

is that legal down there?

Yes.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on November 12, 2009, 07:00:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 06:55:37 PM
Quote from: R W H N on November 12, 2009, 06:53:21 PM
My shiny new cell phone has a tip calculator on it.  So much easier than working it out on the back of the receipt with crayon.  

I never calculate my tips.  I just arbitrarily come up with a number based on quality of service vs how busy they are, and the number of people at my table.



I just go with 20%. You can figure it out in about 3 seconds in your head. Bill is $34? Ten percent of $34 is $3.40, round up to $3.50 because that makes it easier, double it and you have $7. Or round down and then add a dollar, either works.

Not the point.  I use 15% - just as easy to calculate - as the baseline, and then add based on the qualities listed above.

Just using a 20% number rewards poor servers, and fucks the good ones over.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Thurnez Isa

Quote from: Suu on November 12, 2009, 07:02:12 PM
Also, you're not missing much with Tim Horton's.

agree

It is kind of better then Robbins Donuts IMHO,     if that impresses you.
:|
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

hooplala

"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

AFK

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 12, 2009, 07:07:33 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 12, 2009, 07:02:12 PM
Also, you're not missing much with Tim Horton's.

agree

It is kind of better then Robbins Donuts IMHO,     if that impresses you.
:|

Aww, I like Tim Horton's.  Granted my choice here is DD, Starbucks, or Tim Horton's.  TH is close and DD always has lines out the door.  TH coffee is better. 
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 07:04:18 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 12, 2009, 07:00:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 06:55:37 PM
Quote from: R W H N on November 12, 2009, 06:53:21 PM
My shiny new cell phone has a tip calculator on it.  So much easier than working it out on the back of the receipt with crayon.  

I never calculate my tips.  I just arbitrarily come up with a number based on quality of service vs how busy they are, and the number of people at my table.



I just go with 20%. You can figure it out in about 3 seconds in your head. Bill is $34? Ten percent of $34 is $3.40, round up to $3.50 because that makes it easier, double it and you have $7. Or round down and then add a dollar, either works.

Not the point.  I use 15% - just as easy to calculate - as the baseline, and then add based on the qualities listed above.

Just using a 20% number rewards poor servers, and fucks the good ones over.



Other than The Hot Dog Incident, I don't remember the last time I got poor service here.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 12, 2009, 07:07:33 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 12, 2009, 07:02:12 PM
Also, you're not missing much with Tim Horton's.

agree

It is kind of better then Robbins Donuts IMHO,     if that impresses you.
:|

I have never heard of Robbins Donuts or Sue Eatons, either.

We have Voodoo Donuts. They do weddings! And sometimes wrestling.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


hooplala

I have heard very good things about this Voodoo Donuts from a friend.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Suu

Quote from: R W H N on November 12, 2009, 07:11:31 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 12, 2009, 07:07:33 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 12, 2009, 07:02:12 PM
Also, you're not missing much with Tim Horton's.

agree

It is kind of better then Robbins Donuts IMHO,     if that impresses you.
:|

Aww, I like Tim Horton's.  Granted my choice here is DD, Starbucks, or Tim Horton's.  TH is close and DD always has lines out the door.  TH coffee is better. 

DD owns RI. Tim Horton's is just here for mandatory monopoly laws.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on November 12, 2009, 07:11:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 07:04:18 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 12, 2009, 07:00:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 06:55:37 PM
Quote from: R W H N on November 12, 2009, 06:53:21 PM
My shiny new cell phone has a tip calculator on it.  So much easier than working it out on the back of the receipt with crayon.  

I never calculate my tips.  I just arbitrarily come up with a number based on quality of service vs how busy they are, and the number of people at my table.



I just go with 20%. You can figure it out in about 3 seconds in your head. Bill is $34? Ten percent of $34 is $3.40, round up to $3.50 because that makes it easier, double it and you have $7. Or round down and then add a dollar, either works.

Not the point.  I use 15% - just as easy to calculate - as the baseline, and then add based on the qualities listed above.

Just using a 20% number rewards poor servers, and fucks the good ones over.



Other than The Hot Dog Incident, I don't remember the last time I got poor service here.

It happens here, occasionally.  Went into a restaurant, place is empty, there's 2 of us.  Orders were taken (after a while), food was delivered, my friend and I talked for about a half hour (including dinner).  Not a single coffee refill, waiter was too busy bullshitting with the busboy to bother.

NOT 20%.  15%, and then only on principle.

On the other hand, I've gone into a screamingly busy IHOP, gotten good service (food took a while, but that's gonna happen when they're busy), coffee carafe stayed full, waitress checked in on us after we got our food, but was unobtrusive.  She got a ~ 35% tip.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Hoopla on November 12, 2009, 07:18:04 PM
I have heard very good things about this Voodoo Donuts from a friend.

The donuts are ridiculously delicious!
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 07:21:42 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 12, 2009, 07:11:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 07:04:18 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 12, 2009, 07:00:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 06:55:37 PM
Quote from: R W H N on November 12, 2009, 06:53:21 PM
My shiny new cell phone has a tip calculator on it.  So much easier than working it out on the back of the receipt with crayon.  

I never calculate my tips.  I just arbitrarily come up with a number based on quality of service vs how busy they are, and the number of people at my table.



I just go with 20%. You can figure it out in about 3 seconds in your head. Bill is $34? Ten percent of $34 is $3.40, round up to $3.50 because that makes it easier, double it and you have $7. Or round down and then add a dollar, either works.

Not the point.  I use 15% - just as easy to calculate - as the baseline, and then add based on the qualities listed above.

Just using a 20% number rewards poor servers, and fucks the good ones over.



Other than The Hot Dog Incident, I don't remember the last time I got poor service here.

It happens here, occasionally.  Went into a restaurant, place is empty, there's 2 of us.  Orders were taken (after a while), food was delivered, my friend and I talked for about a half hour (including dinner).  Not a single coffee refill, waiter was too busy bullshitting with the busboy to bother.

NOT 20%.  15%, and then only on principle.

On the other hand, I've gone into a screamingly busy IHOP, gotten good service (food took a while, but that's gonna happen when they're busy), coffee carafe stayed full, waitress checked in on us after we got our food, but was unobtrusive.  She got a ~ 35% tip.

Yeah, 20% is my baseline. If service is shitty they get less, if it's above and beyond they get more.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."