Greetings one and all

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Thanks for letting me stay (for now, I have a feeling this could be subject to change at any moment).  I just wanted to say that although I am not myself a Discordian(always thought I was more of a satanic bhuddhist, but thats just because I think there is bliss in apathy and I like to get high), I have always been intrigued by discordianism since I had heard of it.  Whenever I tried to explain it to a close friend (which was hardly ever, unless I thought the person could or would appreciate it) I would say, "its kind of a parody of religion that is a religion...  Sort of".  It always seemed to me to be a thing that you had to be shown though, not something you could really do on your own.  That may sound strange, but, I never met anyone IRL that is into this stuff, except for my ONE friend from High School, and I'm beginning to think he was just a fraud who picked up some cool ideas that year he went away to art school, and then faked the rest, without ever having any REAL understanding of ANYTHING, except how to parrot what he thought would make him 'look cool'.  Utterly disingenuous.  I think I understand why you are so protective of this forum (because of asshats like that), and if I were a member, I would be protective too.  This may sound utterly stupid, but this is the ONLY forum Ive ever been on that actually reminds me of an old school BBS.  People post, have conversations, you guys actually KNOW each other, and thats cool.  I dont know what made me decide to look up the Principia that day a week or so ago, but I had NEVER thought I would find THIS forum.

So, Im happy to be here,  and thats actually REALLY cool because I get so little happiness from life these days.  Im pretty sure the daily parade of inequity and stupidity that is the human race probably gets most of you down as well.  Or maybe it doesnt.  Im not tryinig to say I have anyone here figured out, or that I have anything figured out for that matter.  I do think that I found this forum at the right time in my life, cause if I would have found it this time last year.. Shit, I wouldnt have made it past ten posts.  Ands thats real talk, yo.

Oh, and i made my first MSpaint decopage art thingy for my avatar.  See just being here is making me more smart. er smarter.  whatever.

1.  We'll let you stay.  We hardly ever ban anyone.

2.  Please stop trying to explain Discordianism to people. 

3.  We're all frauds.  Your art school friend would fit in nicely.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Don't listen to TGRR - most of us are really real discordians (for realness)

Except for me - I'm a herbal technomancer with a twist of quantum wicca 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Don't listen to TGRR - most of us are really real discordians (for realness)

Except for me - I'm a herbal technomancer with a twist of quantum wicca 

No, I just was expressing dismay at how he was representing us.

Please to put a tea curse on him using some of that string theory stuff.  Thanks.

[P3nT4gR4m]

No can do, I'm afraid. I broke my wand ...

















... wait for it ...




















... I looked at it and the wave function collapsed

[hooplala]

Stopped reading at:

satanic bhuddhist

Sorry.

[Cainad (dec.)]

Hoops, I saw the same thing, but when you look at the context:

(always thought I was more of a satanic bhuddhist, but thats just because I think there is bliss in apathy and I like to get high)

I think he deserves at least one point for honesty.

[hooplala]

Ah, I didn't see that.  I literally stopped reading at those words.   

[LMNO]

Hey just wanted to post a little something to you all on this forum.

Thanks for letting me stay (for now, I have a feeling this could be subject to change at any moment).  I just wanted to say that although I am not myself a Discordian(always thought I was more of a satanic bhuddhist, but thats just because I think there is bliss in apathy and I like to get high), I have always been intrigued by discordianism since I had heard of it.  Whenever I tried to explain it to a close friend (which was hardly ever, unless I thought the person could or would appreciate it) I would say, "its kind of a parody of religion that is a religion...  Sort of".  It always seemed to me to be a thing that you had to be shown though, not something you could really do on your own.  That may sound strange, but, I never met anyone IRL that is into this stuff, except for my ONE friend from High School, and I'm beginning to think he was just a fraud who picked up some cool ideas that year he went away to art school, and then faked the rest, without ever having any REAL understanding of ANYTHING, except how to parrot what he thought would make him 'look cool'.  Utterly disingenuous.  I think I understand why you are so protective of this forum (because of asshats like that), and if I were a member, I would be protective too.  This may sound utterly stupid, but this is the ONLY forum Ive ever been on that actually reminds me of an old school BBS.  People post, have conversations, you guys actually KNOW each other, and thats cool.  I dont know what made me decide to look up the Principia that day a week or so ago, but I had NEVER thought I would find THIS forum.

So, Im happy to be here,  and thats actually REALLY cool because I get so little happiness from life these days.  Im pretty sure the daily parade of inequity and stupidity that is the human race probably gets most of you down as well.  Or maybe it doesnt.  Im not tryinig to say I have anyone here figured out, or that I have anything figured out for that matter.  I do think that I found this forum at the right time in my life, cause if I would have found it this time last year.. Shit, I wouldnt have made it past ten posts.  Ands thats real talk, yo.

Oh, and i made my first MSpaint decopage art thingy for my avatar.  See just being here is making me more smart. er smarter.  whatever.

I'd like to point out that this was his 55^th post.  Not because of OMGLAWOFFIVES, but to underscore that the 50 post suggestion has some merit to it.

[Triple Zero]

What about the "bliss in apathy" thing?

[P3nT4gR4m]

What about my wave function joke? Laugh goddamnit

[LMNO]

What about the "bliss in apathy" thing?

Consider it a chemically-induced Fifth Circuit breakdown.  If he sticks around here long enough, he has a better chance of getting over it.

[LMNO]

Or, conversely...


So, what does Fifth Gear really entail?  Basically, selfish pleasure.  Rapturous hedonism, unbound by space, time, and social conventions.  Since 5C is connected to 1C, then we revert back to the beginning.  Our pleasure is entirely internal, and focused inward.  "Sensory Intelligence is internally dependent in a similar way that First Grade Physical Intelligence is externally dependent."  

However, in order to become Internally Dependent, you really, really need to be comfortable with yourself. "Internal dependence is in direct opposition to our conditioned, social needs for approval, acceptance and permission to be ourselves. From a sensory perspective, our need for outer confirmation occasionally poses as The Last Obstacle to self-empowerment."  Whether you call it "giving yourself permission", or "casting aside social objections", or whatever, you really need to be comfortable with who you are.  If you don't feel Safe (C1), you're never going to surrender to the Oceanic Bliss (or whatever language you want – remember, we're beyond words, here).

"When you cease to need social approval for the act of being yourself in public, you are potentially a "social threat." This is because you are no longer under anybody's control socially speaking. There are two basic types of social threat: 1) Negative Threats & 2) Positive Threats. The former include psychopaths and those whose social attitude is of the "fuck you" variety. The latter include those charismatic personalities catalyzing Sensory Intelligence in the people they make contact with, directly and/or indirectly."  Now, I wouldn't say that holding two fingers up to the social order is necessarily "Negative"; in fact, a large chunk of the social order deserves it, especially when it comes to the opinion of 5C FUN.  But I'd agree that someone who abandons all social mores simply for hedonistic pleasure would tend to be a dick; and I'd say that the Positive Threat of the Guru has a greater potential for damage.

"The preliminary, baby-phase of Sensory Intelligence is bound to cultivate a certain arrogance in us... not the kind that makes us feel morally superior to others but the sense of being privileged or "chosen" to be included among The Living."  This is one thing I like about A.A., in that he makes it clear you can't just hit 5C and then stop.  "...During the advent of the 1960's, it was The Hippies who re-stabilized Sensory Intelligence. It didn't last, however, because there was nowhere to go with it. It was as if we were all dressed up with no place to go... The nature of Sensory Intelligence is very "zen" in that there really is NoWhere To Go because everything is Here and Now. This is kind of like getting "stuck in the present." There's nothing particularly "wrong" with this and everybody ought to try it at least once. For those of us wishing to graduate, it is imperative that we learn how to absorb, organize and communicate Sensory Intelligence... If we don't, we run the risk of remaining in the self-absorption phase of Rapture and must resign ourselves to the perpetual indulgence of our Hippy Ancestors."

He concludes with the observation that when we understand what 5C is, we look and strive for two things: Leisure Time, and Sex For Fun.  Usually, both at the same time.  If we don't have knowledge of 5C, we are concerned with Survival, and Rules.  5C occurs when we have no more survival worries, and we forget about the Rules.  Of course, if you spend too long there, you'll either risk your survival, or get eaten up by the Machine™.  So, like every other level, you need to integrate it into the whole.  And once you do that, you can some increased control over yourself.  "It is possible to, at will, disconnect our attachment to the conditioned, robotic response to things and shift into the direct sense perception and response of somatic contact."  That is, you can relax your physical body, and you can recognize the Rules that you operate by. We can detect the tension in ourselves, and learn to let it go.





The paragraph in bold is the most applicable to this conversation.

[LMNO]

Ok, if I understand you correctly, the truly enlightened mind just wants to fuck.

Then you don't understand me correctly.

[P3nT4gR4m]

In fairness none of us do. Most of us just smile politely and avoid eye contact

[LMNO]

THE UNENLIGHTENED WILL BURN IN TORMENT.
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