"Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

I hadn't really considered that aspect, my hackles went up after the "Some of My friends" shit.

While I can concede that maybe this guy isn't a total lost cause (No idea, never heard of him until today) I highly doubt he will be in situations where this thinking is seriously challenged. In the absence of anyone to beat it out of him, at best I think he may just conceal it.

I'm not sure if that's an improvement.

It is an improvement.  A small gain, but a gain nonetheless.  If you change someone's behavior, you change the way they transmit signal to others.

He states that the term was picked up when he was young.  So now he keeps it to himself, and doesn't transmit it to the next generation.

And who knows?  Maybe he will think about it.

Either way, things are slightly better.

I'm all about slapping the po'buckers around, the ones that can't or won't change, because of their motivations.  If someone CAN be changed, though, it's best to help them change, rather than drag them around by the heels.  It's all about inclusion.

Who the hell DIDN'T pick that up when they were young?
It has "n-" in it. FFS.

But yeah, better for him to be a private racist fucktard than an outspoken one. 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I hadn't really considered that aspect, my hackles went up after the "Some of My friends" shit.

While I can concede that maybe this guy isn't a total lost cause (No idea, never heard of him until today) I highly doubt he will be in situations where this thinking is seriously challenged. In the absence of anyone to beat it out of him, at best I think he may just conceal it.

I'm not sure if that's an improvement.

It is an improvement.  A small gain, but a gain nonetheless.  If you change someone's behavior, you change the way they transmit signal to others.

He states that the term was picked up when he was young.  So now he keeps it to himself, and doesn't transmit it to the next generation.

And who knows?  Maybe he will think about it.

Either way, things are slightly better.

I'm all about slapping the po'buckers around, the ones that can't or won't change, because of their motivations.  If someone CAN be changed, though, it's best to help them change, rather than drag them around by the heels.  It's all about inclusion.

Who the hell DIDN'T pick that up when they were young?
It has "n-" in it. FFS.

But yeah, better for him to be a private racist fucktard than an outspoken one. 

I'm not even convinced he's an actual racist.  He may simply have bad filters.  He doesn't seem to have any hate in him.  And that, as I have said, is a condition that allows a positive change.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

I hadn't really considered that aspect, my hackles went up after the "Some of My friends" shit.

While I can concede that maybe this guy isn't a total lost cause (No idea, never heard of him until today) I highly doubt he will be in situations where this thinking is seriously challenged. In the absence of anyone to beat it out of him, at best I think he may just conceal it.

I'm not sure if that's an improvement.

It is an improvement.  A small gain, but a gain nonetheless.  If you change someone's behavior, you change the way they transmit signal to others.

He states that the term was picked up when he was young.  So now he keeps it to himself, and doesn't transmit it to the next generation.

And who knows?  Maybe he will think about it.

Either way, things are slightly better.

I'm all about slapping the po'buckers around, the ones that can't or won't change, because of their motivations.  If someone CAN be changed, though, it's best to help them change, rather than drag them around by the heels.  It's all about inclusion.

Who the hell DIDN'T pick that up when they were young?
It has "n-" in it. FFS.

But yeah, better for him to be a private racist fucktard than an outspoken one. 

I'm not even convinced he's an actual racist.  He may simply have bad filters.  He doesn't seem to have any hate in him.  And that, as I have said, is a condition that allows a positive change.

I suspect expressions like that are OK in his little county-officials-social-clique and he doesn't really communicate with anybody else.
It might not be seething ragehate, but it's institutionalized ignorance.

[Pergamos]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

Gile told the Salina Journal that he knew the term he used from when he was growing up and that he meant to say "jury-rigged." He also insisted that he is not racist, noting that a friend he considers a sister is black.

"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I become increasingly certain that there is a warehouse somewhere which stores black friends. I've never seen anyone use this defence and actually have said person in the room endorsing the statements.

It really should be mandatory. The burden of proof is on them "One of my Best friends is an X" should only be admissible if they can be shown to exist and are actually fucking friends.

I have a lot of friends who say nigger-rigged.  Some of them are racist in the ignorant "I don't really know any black people but one time one stole my girlfriend" way, others are not but still use the word because it is the word that they grew up with and that people around them use.  I grew up with jerry-rigged, which is different from jury rigged in that it is actually also a racist term, it just refers to Germans instead of to Black people.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

Gile told the Salina Journal that he knew the term he used from when he was growing up and that he meant to say "jury-rigged." He also insisted that he is not racist, noting that a friend he considers a sister is black.

"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I become increasingly certain that there is a warehouse somewhere which stores black friends. I've never seen anyone use this defence and actually have said person in the room endorsing the statements.

It really should be mandatory. The burden of proof is on them "One of my Best friends is an X" should only be admissible if they can be shown to exist and are actually fucking friends.

I have a lot of friends who say nigger-rigged.  Some of them are racist in the ignorant "I don't really know any black people but one time one stole my girlfriend" way, others are not but still use the word because it is the word that they grew up with and that people around them use.  I grew up with jerry-rigged, which is different from jury rigged in that it is actually also a racist term, it just refers to Germans instead of to Black people.

As far as I know, "jerry rigged" is merely a corruption of "jury rigged", Germans not being widely associated with temporary crappy solutions to mechanical problems.

[Pergamos]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

Gile told the Salina Journal that he knew the term he used from when he was growing up and that he meant to say "jury-rigged." He also insisted that he is not racist, noting that a friend he considers a sister is black.

"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I become increasingly certain that there is a warehouse somewhere which stores black friends. I've never seen anyone use this defence and actually have said person in the room endorsing the statements.

It really should be mandatory. The burden of proof is on them "One of my Best friends is an X" should only be admissible if they can be shown to exist and are actually fucking friends.

I have a lot of friends who say nigger-rigged.  Some of them are racist in the ignorant "I don't really know any black people but one time one stole my girlfriend" way, others are not but still use the word because it is the word that they grew up with and that people around them use.  I grew up with jerry-rigged, which is different from jury rigged in that it is actually also a racist term, it just refers to Germans instead of to Black people.

As far as I know, "jerry rigged" is merely a corruption of "jury rigged", Germans not being widely associated with temporary crappy solutions to mechanical problems.

I figured it was the German engineer stereotype.  That they'd patch it together so that it could run just a few more miles.  Jury rigged doesn't make any sense to me, how is slapping duct tape on it like rigging the jury?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

Gile told the Salina Journal that he knew the term he used from when he was growing up and that he meant to say "jury-rigged." He also insisted that he is not racist, noting that a friend he considers a sister is black.

"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I become increasingly certain that there is a warehouse somewhere which stores black friends. I've never seen anyone use this defence and actually have said person in the room endorsing the statements.

It really should be mandatory. The burden of proof is on them "One of my Best friends is an X" should only be admissible if they can be shown to exist and are actually fucking friends.

I have a lot of friends who say nigger-rigged.  Some of them are racist in the ignorant "I don't really know any black people but one time one stole my girlfriend" way, others are not but still use the word because it is the word that they grew up with and that people around them use.  I grew up with jerry-rigged, which is different from jury rigged in that it is actually also a racist term, it just refers to Germans instead of to Black people.

As far as I know, "jerry rigged" is merely a corruption of "jury rigged", Germans not being widely associated with temporary crappy solutions to mechanical problems.

I figured it was the German engineer stereotype.  That they'd patch it together so that it could run just a few more miles.  Jury rigged doesn't make any sense to me, how is slapping duct tape on it like rigging the jury?

Um, that's not where "jury rigged" comes from.  And Germans don't horse things along - or at least they're not perceived that way.  They build things right, maintain them properly, and replace them before the replacement is necessary.

Jury Rigged:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_rig  It's a nautical term derived from Latin.  Has nothing to do with rigging juries.

[Pergamos]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

Gile told the Salina Journal that he knew the term he used from when he was growing up and that he meant to say "jury-rigged." He also insisted that he is not racist, noting that a friend he considers a sister is black.

"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I become increasingly certain that there is a warehouse somewhere which stores black friends. I've never seen anyone use this defence and actually have said person in the room endorsing the statements.

It really should be mandatory. The burden of proof is on them "One of my Best friends is an X" should only be admissible if they can be shown to exist and are actually fucking friends.

I have a lot of friends who say nigger-rigged.  Some of them are racist in the ignorant "I don't really know any black people but one time one stole my girlfriend" way, others are not but still use the word because it is the word that they grew up with and that people around them use.  I grew up with jerry-rigged, which is different from jury rigged in that it is actually also a racist term, it just refers to Germans instead of to Black people.

As far as I know, "jerry rigged" is merely a corruption of "jury rigged", Germans not being widely associated with temporary crappy solutions to mechanical problems.

I figured it was the German engineer stereotype.  That they'd patch it together so that it could run just a few more miles.  Jury rigged doesn't make any sense to me, how is slapping duct tape on it like rigging the jury?

Um, that's not where "jury rigged" comes from.  And Germans don't horse things along - or at least they're not perceived that way.  They build things right, maintain them properly, and replace them before the replacement is necessary.

Jury Rigged:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_rig  It's a nautical term derived from Latin.  Has nothing to do with rigging juries.

Woot!  I was raised with an actually not racist term.  I feel better about the adults I grew up with.

[LMNO]

Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

Yeah.

And it just occurred to me that several terms like that are for kids' toys and candy. The indoctrination starts early.

[Pergamos]

Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

Yeah.

And it just occurred to me that several terms like that are for kids' toys and candy. The indoctrination starts early.

Racist toys and candy?  I don't think I have heard about this before, I am curious.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

Yeah.

And it just occurred to me that several terms like that are for kids' toys and candy. The indoctrination starts early.

Racist toys and candy?  I don't think I have heard about this before, I am curious.

"N- shooters" for rubber shooters, "n- chasers" for those fireworks that go every which way, "n- tits" for Hershey Kisses and "n- babies" for licorice babies.

Texas. 

[Pergamos]

Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

Yeah.

And it just occurred to me that several terms like that are for kids' toys and candy. The indoctrination starts early.

Racist toys and candy?  I don't think I have heard about this before, I am curious.

"N- shooters" for rubber shooters, "n- chasers" for those fireworks that go every which way, "n- tits" for Hershey Kisses and "n- babies" for licorice babies.

Texas. 

Wow.  I hadn't heard any of those.

One more reason I am scared of Texas.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

Yeah.

And it just occurred to me that several terms like that are for kids' toys and candy. The indoctrination starts early.

Racist toys and candy?  I don't think I have heard about this before, I am curious.

"N- shooters" for rubber shooters, "n- chasers" for those fireworks that go every which way, "n- tits" for Hershey Kisses and "n- babies" for licorice babies.

Texas. 

Wow.  I hadn't heard any of those.

One more reason I am scared of Texas.

Texas isn't scary.  Just full of fucking idiots.  Not everyone's an idiot there, mind you, but if you swing a dead cat around, you're not likely to hit Stephen Hawking.

[Pergamos]

Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

Yeah.

And it just occurred to me that several terms like that are for kids' toys and candy. The indoctrination starts early.

Racist toys and candy?  I don't think I have heard about this before, I am curious.

"N- shooters" for rubber shooters, "n- chasers" for those fireworks that go every which way, "n- tits" for Hershey Kisses and "n- babies" for licorice babies.

Texas. 

Wow.  I hadn't heard any of those.

One more reason I am scared of Texas.

Texas isn't scary.  Just full of fucking idiots.  Not everyone's an idiot there, mind you, but if you swing a dead cat around, you're not likely to hit Stephen Hawking.

Idiots with guns, who are allowed to shoot you if you are on their property, or if they are "standing their ground"