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Corporations now have the right to spend money directly to influence elections

Started by BabylonHoruv, January 21, 2010, 09:55:12 PM

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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: FP on January 22, 2010, 09:23:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2010, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: FP on January 22, 2010, 09:14:09 PM


Fact - we cast votes every time we go shopping, with every dollar we spend.  Until enough people routinely use this to correct the behaviour of corporations, then we'll be screwed.

Imagine a device which takes your shopping list and substitutes brand items based upon issues you support and the positions corporations take on those issues -- there's an app for thatTM.

This part is especially brilliant humor.  Why even vote at all?  We'll just buy the brands that support the politicians we like, and call it a day.

:lulz:
And it updates your facebook profile with ethic-points(R).  Moving forward corporations have to become more issue-neutral or they will suffer more consequences than ever before.

They only screw us over because we pay them to, and as such there is a handsome profit in it.

What planet do you live on?
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Ratatosk on January 22, 2010, 09:26:24 PM
Quote from: FP on January 22, 2010, 09:23:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2010, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: FP on January 22, 2010, 09:14:09 PM


Fact - we cast votes every time we go shopping, with every dollar we spend.  Until enough people routinely use this to correct the behaviour of corporations, then we'll be screwed.

Imagine a device which takes your shopping list and substitutes brand items based upon issues you support and the positions corporations take on those issues -- there's an app for thatTM.

This part is especially brilliant humor.  Why even vote at all?  We'll just buy the brands that support the politicians we like, and call it a day.

:lulz:
And it updates your facebook profile with ethic-points(R).  Moving forward corporations have to become more issue-neutral or they will suffer more consequences than ever before.

They only screw us over because we pay them to, and as such there is a handsome profit in it.

What planet do you live on?

Planet Limbaugh, apparently.

Those poor old corporations only dump cyanide in Lake Erie because we ask them to.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Jenne

Quote from: FP on January 22, 2010, 09:23:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2010, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: FP on January 22, 2010, 09:14:09 PM


Fact - we cast votes every time we go shopping, with every dollar we spend.  Until enough people routinely use this to correct the behaviour of corporations, then we'll be screwed.

Imagine a device which takes your shopping list and substitutes brand items based upon issues you support and the positions corporations take on those issues -- there's an app for thatTM.

This part is especially brilliant humor.  Why even vote at all?  We'll just buy the brands that support the politicians we like, and call it a day.

:lulz:
And it updates your facebook profile with ethic-points(R).  Moving forward corporations have to become more issue-neutral or they will suffer more consequences than ever before.

They only screw us over because we pay them to, and as such there is a handsome profit in it.

Nah, they screw us over because they CAN, and they pay THEMSELVES to do so.

Eater of Clowns

Quote from: Jenne on January 22, 2010, 09:10:44 PM
Quote from: The Omnipotent Grinner on January 22, 2010, 09:09:50 PM
Frankly I'm disgusted with all of your reactions to this.  For our nation's history, corporations have been abused and tossed aside without treating them like the people they are.  Listen to yourself, talking like corporations have some kind of consipracy against the common man.  You know, that's what some people say about the Jews and, worse, international bankers.  The corporate world has a long history of practicing American values at their finest without expectation of reward or accolates.  Their hard work, their leadership, their righteousness is that to which we owe our thanks.

And you're all calling them less than human, you're all telling us that their voices don't matter.  Well as some of you have already said, in our history the voices of women, black people, homosexuals, and the deeply religious have been silenced.  We can look back on that now and know it was wrong to do that, just like in the future we can look back on this thread and see how corporatist and intolerant we're all being.

Even the Supreme Court can recognize that corporations are people.  I just wish the people were as forward thinking.

:lulz:

My  hat's off to you, Dear Sir.

:thanks:
Quote from: Pippa Twiddleton on December 22, 2012, 01:06:36 AM
EoC, you are the bane of my existence.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 07, 2014, 01:18:23 AM
EoC doesn't make creepy.

EoC makes creepy worse.

Quote
the afflicted persons get hold of and consume carrots even in socially quite unacceptable situations.

Jenne

ATTENTION FICTIONPUSS:

THE CORPORATION IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. IT DOESN'T CARE IF YOU LIVE OR DIE, IT JUST COUNTS YOU AS A NUMBER.  YOU DO NOT EXIST TO THEM AS A PERSON.  THEY DON'T THINK LIKE ANYTHING BUT A MONEY SUCKING LEECH, NO MATTER WHAT, AND YOU WILL PROBABLY LOSE IF YOU GO UP AGAINST THEM.

(providing you, too, aren't a corporation as well)

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Jenne on January 22, 2010, 09:29:21 PM
ATTENTION FICTIONPUSS:

THE CORPORATION IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. IT DOESN'T CARE IF YOU LIVE OR DIE, IT JUST COUNTS YOU AS A NUMBER.  YOU DO NOT EXIST TO THEM AS A PERSON.  THEY DON'T THINK LIKE ANYTHING BUT A MONEY SUCKING LEECH, NO MATTER WHAT, AND YOU WILL PROBABLY LOSE IF YOU GO UP AGAINST THEM.

(providing you, too, aren't a corporation as well)

Stop hating America™.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Jenne

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2010, 09:32:36 PM
Quote from: Jenne on January 22, 2010, 09:29:21 PM
ATTENTION FICTIONPUSS:

THE CORPORATION IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. IT DOESN'T CARE IF YOU LIVE OR DIE, IT JUST COUNTS YOU AS A NUMBER.  YOU DO NOT EXIST TO THEM AS A PERSON.  THEY DON'T THINK LIKE ANYTHING BUT A MONEY SUCKING LEECH, NO MATTER WHAT, AND YOU WILL PROBABLY LOSE IF YOU GO UP AGAINST THEM.

(providing you, too, aren't a corporation as well)

Stop hating America™.

Yeah, but I gotta be me.

Captain Utopia

Quote from: Ratatosk on January 22, 2010, 09:21:55 PM
FP, I think you're missing the MAIN FUCKING POINT

A CORPORATION IS NOT A HUMAN BEING AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A CITIZEN.
That would be a big capitalised point to miss, but I don't think I was advocating that a corporation should be considered a citizen.


Quote from: Ratatosk on January 22, 2010, 09:21:55 PM
Corporations exist to limit the liability of the actions of humans. With less liability comes less responsibility and therefore FUCKING less FREEDOMS.

If you personally can't be held responsible then you shouldn't have all the same freedoms of someone who can personally be held responsible. Its this kind if FUCKWIT thinking that led Nike to lie and say "Oh we don't use sweatshops" AND then claim that they weren't "lying" they were just using their Freedom of Speech.
It would remain the most effective recourse, to stop buying Nike products and to burn down the estates of the people at Nike who are responsible.  A populace not prepared to make this happen will continue to get shat on.


Quote from: Jenne on January 22, 2010, 09:29:21 PM
ATTENTION FICTIONPUSS:

THE CORPORATION IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. IT DOESN'T CARE IF YOU LIVE OR DIE, IT JUST COUNTS YOU AS A NUMBER.  YOU DO NOT EXIST TO THEM AS A PERSON.  THEY DON'T THINK LIKE ANYTHING BUT A MONEY SUCKING LEECH, NO MATTER WHAT, AND YOU WILL PROBABLY LOSE IF YOU GO UP AGAINST THEM.

(providing you, too, aren't a corporation as well)
I don't think I was defending corporations.

The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Captain Utopia

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2010, 09:27:24 PM
Planet Limbaugh, apparently.
Aww, that was a low-blow  :cry:

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2010, 09:27:24 PM
Those poor old corporations only dump cyanide in Lake Erie because we ask them to.
No, the bastards get away with it because we allow them to.

Payne

Rich Boy sellin' crack dope niggas
wanna jack shit tight no slack just bought
a Congressman(THROW SOME D'S ON DA BITCH!!)
just bought a Congressman(THROW SOME D'S
ON DAT BITCH!!)just bought a Congressman
(THROW SOME D'S ON DAT BITCH!!)
                                  /


Rich Boy sellin crack dope niggas wanna jack
shit tight no slack just bought a
Congressman took it to da Chop Shop got da damn
top dropped two colored flipped flopped
candy red lolipop deres some hoes in da 'lot
still got my glock hott
new money motha fucka don't you see da tail
light don't you see da big chain don't
you da big rims wonda who dey hatin' on lately
baby its him Candy paint, gator skin
seats call me Dun Dee,up in yo 'hood im da fucka
dat you wanna be niggas wish
dey could feel da wood in my H3 ridin' wit no tint
so motha-mothas no its me....
                                  /


chorus:Rich Boy sellin' crack dope niggas wanna jack
shit tight no slack just bought
a Congressman(THROW SOME D'S ON DA BITCH!!)
just bought a Congressman(THROW SOME D'S
ON DAT BITCH!!)just bought a Congressman
(THROW SOME D'S ON DAT BITCH!!)
                                  /


nigga i neva slip and ya see i neva fall,
alot of hoes give me dey numba but see i neva
call O.G style look at a nigga ball,baby
afta we hit da club imma hit dem draws yea
imma brek you off and baby that should
be all every bitch should have a picture of my
dick on dey wall Polow be the shit zone 4
be the click yea dis fa my dawgs
yea gangsters, hustlas,wankstas,bustas
(Wait a minute muthaficka)
                                  /


Rich Boy sellin' crack dope niggas
wanna jack shit tight no slack just bought
a Congressman(THROW SOME D'S ON DA BITCH!!)
just bought a Congressman(THROW SOME D'S
ON DAT BITCH!!)just bought a Congressman
(THROW SOME D'S ON DAT BITCH!!)
                                  /


Hit the block on some new 10 million dolla deals.
Kinda strange how i feel,
toucha gator on my wheel Got peanut butter icecream
petterpan seats just gotta
fresh cut now we lookin for them freaks.
Take her back yella bitch make her dropp
dem dem draws show her howwa nigga ball,
middle finga to da law so fuck dem
niggas tell em' what dey wanna do?
Hatin on a nigga cus my next skate 22's. when
i pull up imma park right at da front pour lean
in my cup got purp in my blunt.
imma real pimp bitch im not playin' like a trick
just bought a new 'Lac bout to put dem
thangs on dat bitch!!!!!
                                  /


Rich Boy sellin' crack dope niggas
wanna jack shit tight no slack just bought
a Congressman(THROW SOME D'S ON DA BITCH!!)
just bought a Congressman(THROW SOME D'S
ON DAT BITCH!!)just bought a Congressman
(THROW SOME D'S ON DAT BITCH!!)
                                  /

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: FP on January 22, 2010, 09:36:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2010, 09:27:24 PM
Planet Limbaugh, apparently.
Aww, that was a low-blow  :cry:

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2010, 09:27:24 PM
Those poor old corporations only dump cyanide in Lake Erie because we ask them to.
No, the bastards get away with it because we allow them to.

And now we're going to allow them to do lots more!  :banana:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Eater of Clowns

Quote from: Pippa Twiddleton on December 22, 2012, 01:06:36 AM
EoC, you are the bane of my existence.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 07, 2014, 01:18:23 AM
EoC doesn't make creepy.

EoC makes creepy worse.

Quote
the afflicted persons get hold of and consume carrots even in socially quite unacceptable situations.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: FP on January 22, 2010, 09:34:27 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on January 22, 2010, 09:21:55 PM
FP, I think you're missing the MAIN FUCKING POINT

A CORPORATION IS NOT A HUMAN BEING AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A CITIZEN.
That would be a big capitalised point to miss, but I don't think I was advocating that a corporation should be considered a citizen.

That's the logic being used by SCOTUS.
Quote
Quote from: Ratatosk on January 22, 2010, 09:21:55 PM
Corporations exist to limit the liability of the actions of humans. With less liability comes less responsibility and therefore FUCKING less FREEDOMS.

If you personally can't be held responsible then you shouldn't have all the same freedoms of someone who can personally be held responsible. Its this kind if FUCKWIT thinking that led Nike to lie and say "Oh we don't use sweatshops" AND then claim that they weren't "lying" they were just using their Freedom of Speech.
It would remain the most effective recourse, to stop buying Nike products and to burn down the estates of the people at Nike who are responsible.  A populace not prepared to make this happen will continue to get shat on.

Sure, and I think that anarchy would be far better than democracy in some fantasy world where humans behaved like self-regulated, responsible individuals with some modicum of self-control, altruism and an understanding of how some short term decisions affect long term goals.

Sadly, we live in a nation where we not only buy Nike shoes, we pay insane sums of money for Nike shoes and sometimes people kill each other for Nike shoes.

Now, if you're arguing that 2/3rds of Americans deserve it because they wear short skirts, low cut tops, have a tramp stamp and a cardboard sign that says "Will suck your dick for another episode of 'American Idol'"

Well, then ok I agree.


- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson