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Started by Doktor Howl, February 15, 2010, 09:50:26 PM

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I don't like to drive a car when I'm tired. In fact, I avoid driving pretty much whenever I can, except for road trips which I love. Driving a car STONED sounds nightmarish. No way!
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Quote from: Ratatosk on June 09, 2010, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: RWHN on June 09, 2010, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 09, 2010, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: RWHN on June 09, 2010, 10:59:08 AM
I would humbly suggest a Googling of psychomotorskills. 

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I haven't googled it, but the psychology dictionary says its perception-motor integration.  Reaction times, hand eye coordination, that kind of thing.

It seemed based upon your previous post that you were using motorskills and psychomotorskills interchangeably.  I was talking about the effect of stronger THC levels on psychomotorskills and then you commented that one didn't need to be as concerned with motorskills. 

Indeed, from what I've read and understand, I believe hand-eye coordination and reaction times can be impacted by marijuana as they can be by many drugs.  The cited study looked at a pretty low level THC marijuana.  But it seems unlikely that the stronger versions would not impact some of these things. 

I think reaction time and attention are likely the two most dangerous aspects of pot+driving... stoned as hell I can still do some pretty intricate work sewing, fencing, video games... yard work, cooking etc... but in a situation where you're piloting a giant pile of steel its the reaction time and ease of distraction that most concern me :)

(Hey, RWHN we are having a positive chat together on this topic!!! :) )

Clearly this is a sign of the end of times.  :)
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I tried driving stoned a few times when I was younger.  They were some of the most horrible experiences I have ever had.

BadBeast

Steady on, you two! You been smoking pot or something?
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I used to drive stoned all the time. Come to think of it back then I was stoned all the time so the choice was drive stoned or walk. Never found any problems with it except for one night I forgot to turn on my headlights. Never noticed until I hit the backroads and the streetlights ran out. Freaked me right out until I realised what the problem was  :lulz:

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I drove stoned before... but have since decided against it. It wasn't that I felt like I didn't have control... I just decided it was incredibly dumb and sounded like something an "addict" would do, so I stopped.
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BadBeast

Driving stoned, you seem to take everything into account anyway, and drive slower, and more carefully. Not like driving pissed, where you are suddenly Michael Schumakker.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

BadBeast

I don't think I've ever had a prang, driving stoned. I have while driving drunk though. I can't even ride my pushbike without falling off if I'm pissed.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

BabylonHoruv

I don't drive, so it's never been a problem.

I do think driving has had a much more adverse effect on society than any drug.
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BadBeast

You're probably right. It's certainly killed more people. Or at least, some of the bad driving has. And the fumes. Lets not forget the fumes. Drug fumes are benign in comparison.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

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Not to mention that the apples in the local Safeway were grown 100 miles north of me in Washington, and then driven down to California for "processing" and then driven back up here to Oregon.
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Quote from: RWHN on June 09, 2010, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 09, 2010, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: RWHN on June 09, 2010, 10:59:08 AM
I would humbly suggest a Googling of psychomotorskills. 

?

I haven't googled it, but the psychology dictionary says its perception-motor integration.  Reaction times, hand eye coordination, that kind of thing.

It seemed based upon your previous post that you were using motorskills and psychomotorskills interchangeably.  I was talking about the effect of stronger THC levels on psychomotorskills and then you commented that one didn't need to be as concerned with motorskills. 

Indeed, from what I've read and understand, I believe hand-eye coordination and reaction times can be impacted by marijuana as they can be by many drugs.  The cited study looked at a pretty low level THC marijuana.  But it seems unlikely that the stronger versions would not impact some of these things. 

Ah, my bad, I meant to refer to motor skills as a whole, with psychomotor skills as a subset.

Quote from: Telarus on June 10, 2010, 04:55:08 AM
Not to mention that the apples in the local Safeway were grown 100 miles north of me in Washington, and then driven down to California for "processing" and then driven back up here to Oregon.

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BabylonHoruv

Quote from: Telarus on June 10, 2010, 04:55:08 AM
Not to mention that the apples in the local Safeway were grown 100 miles north of me in Washington, and then driven down to California for "processing" and then driven back up here to Oregon.

Yep, this is not only not good for the environment because of all the driving, it is not good for the eater of apples, becasue apples that can survive being shipped back and forth have different qualities than tasting good and being good for you that get selected for.
You're a special case, Babylon.  You are offensive even when you don't post.

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http://mashable.com/2010/06/13/ipod-touch-marijuana-ipad-craigslist/

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Quote from: Doktor HowlI DO have a gripe with people who insist that substance abuse connects you to a higher plane, or makes you telepathic, or more creative.

I agree. But drugs might (repeat: MIGHT) give one new insights into their own life, just because the way it fucks your brain means it makes you see different connections than you normally do.
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