Just because your decision had a reason does not remove your responsibility.

[Doktor Howl]

How severe would the reason have to be to make the fact that you had a choice irrelevant?

Example: you're driving someone else's car and a milktruck is coming straight at you.
You decide to avoid the milktruck and drive straight into the river.
Result: Car ruined but you're still alive.

My opinion: its still your fault the car is ruined.

Bullshit.  The fault is on the guy who caused the accident.  In this case, the milk truck driver.

[Triple Zero]

did i SAY the victim was responsible for getting raped? NO! i said she was responsible for actively 'cathing his eye' that is all.(hypothetical situation as i perceived it, i'm not saying its usually like that)  Its not a bad thing she did that and i'm not saying she's responsible for anything that someone else chose to do. you do not chose to get raped so thats not the victims fault.
Have i made myself clear?

They're using a different definition of the word "responsible". Conflating the difference between "ought to" and "could have chosen to". Dunno if it's language or culture, but it's useless to argue that way.

[Triple Zero]

did i SAY the victim was responsible for getting raped? NO! i said she was responsible for actively 'cathing his eye' that is all.

There is no fucking difference.

No difference between catching someone's eye and getting raped? Explain me how that works.

[Triple Zero]

Urg. I didn't see the date on these posts. Thanks a lot for wasting my fucking time.

[Doktor Howl]

of course you're not! the only thing you are responsible for is how you act and react.

So a rape victim is responsible for catching the rapist's eye?

yes, and the rapist is responsible for acting on his eye being caught.
and the victim is responsible for his or her level of resistance.
and the rapist is responsible for not killing himself.

So, does Regret still think being raped is the victim's fault for "catching the rapists eye"?

[Doktor Howl]

Urg. I didn't see the date on these posts. Thanks a lot for wasting my fucking time.

Yeah, I was pissed at first when I noticed "June 2008", but I'm all about dragging Regret around by his old arguments.