Life span.

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Double bollocks, all depression does is sap away all energy.  Sadness, yes.  Anger, yes.  Pain, yes.  But depression is the absence of any emotion, a deadening of the brain, a lifeless gray cell that cuts a person off from life.  Depression is never going to be "jet fuel" because all it does is allow someone to get through the day, one day at a time.  You're full of shit.

edit: I thought I was adding a reply but I modified this one by mistake.

[BADGE OF HONOR]

http://depression.about.com/cs/diagnosis/a/mdd.htm

This disorder is characterized by the presence of the majority of these symptoms:

• Depressed mood most of the day, nearly every day, as indicated by either subjective report (e.g., feels sad or empty) or observation made by others (e.g., appears tearful). (In children and adolescents, this may be characterized as an irritable mood.)
  
• Markedly diminished interest or pleasure in all, or almost all, activities most of the day, nearly every day
  
• Significant weight loss when not dieting or weight gain (e.g., a change of more than 5 of body weight in a month), or decrease or increase in appetite nearly every day.
  
• Insomnia or hypersomnia nearly every day
  
• Psychomotor agitation or retardation nearly every day
  
• Fatigue or loss of energy nearly every day
  
• Feelings of worthlessness or excessive or inappropriate guilt nearly every day
  Diminished ability to think or concentrate, or indecisiveness, nearly every day
  
• Recurrent thoughts of death (not just fear of dying), recurrent suicidal ideation without a specific plan, or a suicide attempt or a specific plan for committing suicide.

[Doktor Howl]

So, wait.  Net's position is that depression fills you with energy?

What?   

[Payne]

I struggled with depression for a long time, and still do just not to the same degree or intensity.

Depression, for me, was the stripping away of motivation and supression of emotion. Motivation because I was unwilling to allow myself to be hurt, and emotion because I was unable to deal with any form of strong emotion "positive" or "negative". I wasn't ever really sad, I wasn't ever really happy. Or angry, or loving, or hateful. I had plastic masks that I could wear to simulate these things, but I remained unmoved deep down.

I had enough left to see me through the day and most of the night when I couldn't sleep. And it was all the same day and all the same night.

When I dreamt, the dreams would horrify and disturb me. And I didn't need to be asleep to dream them.

I would drown my unquiet mind in booze or another form of escapism, and have likely done some damage to myself both physically and mentally. In the span of my lifetime this period does not amount to very much at all, but the effects will remain with me for a very long time.

It is only after a long and hard journey upwards and out of this mess that I am in any way able to appreciate the lessons or to get any kind of sense of being kicked in the ass.

No, depression in itself did nothing for me and was not an untapped source of creativity or anything like that. Not when my very core was a lumpen, static, mass with no forward momentum. The depression might well be more useful to me now that I got some momentum going, but the sheer hell of it was not a price worth paying.

[Cramulus]

So, wait.  Net's position is that depression fills you with energy?

What?   

I think he's taking the same stance as LHX did in Pipe Bombs

im gonna also propose that the 'positive' shrapnel is NOT ALWAYS accidental

i know some people that when they go thru foul shit - they reach for the pen

and the bomb they assemble is MEANT to turn that negative situation into something that people can touch / feel / use



at the very least - for me personally - when the difficulty of situations gets amped up - when im catching too much of the bullshit shrapnel - i seek to re-affirm the alliances i have made in the past and touch base with my foundation

in the process i benefit and look to approach the situation in ways that others can benefit as well


you can only build a brick shit house if you shit your hate properly

tl;dr - Some incredible art has emerged from depression

see also: Picasso's Blue Period

[nerinamakani]

I dunno. i'm kinda addicted to my emotional pain. Everyday that feels good without feeling bad is really strange to me.

But i like the bad feeling. Suicidal depression is sweet. like joy? i dunno. Aren't all emotions sweet?

[Doktor Howl]

I dunno. i'm kinda addicted to my emotional pain. Everyday that feels good without feeling bad is really strange to me.

But i like the bad feeling. Suicidal depression is sweet. like joy? i dunno. Aren't all emotions sweet?

Hang on, I'm too busy crying mascara to reply.

[Thurnez Isa]

tl;dr - Some incredible art has emerged from depression

On one hand I wrote almost an entire viola sonata (- corrections and the last half of the 4th movement) during my last manic attack.
On the other hand I would trade it back so not to go through that hell again

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

I think most cases of mild/moderate depression have positive byproducts that may outweigh the negatives.

Part of the depressive cycle is to remove yourself from socializing, which is not always a negative thing. It allows you to focus on your problem uninterrupted so you can solve it.

There also is evidence that part of the "chemical imbalance" of depression allows the brain to think more deeply for longer periods of time by protecting it from the otherwise damaging effects of having your brain on overdrive. That's what I meant by "jet fuel."

The fatigue and lack of motivation doesn't mean that your brain isn't working constructively on an unconscious level to find solutions to your problem. It doesn't necessarily mean it IS either, but if the depression isn't severe, you may consider embracing depression as a feature of your biology, not something that is holding you back. It may be a useful adaptation that is being overly medicalized and stigmatized for financial gain.

I'm not saying that depression can't go wrong and be more damaging than helpful. But I find my mild/moderate depressive episodes to assist me through problems rather than make them more difficult. I don't think depression ought to be regarded as NECESSARILY bad. On the extreme end, I agree there is little constructive possibility, and extreme measures such as temporary positivity blinders can be useful.

Temporarily.

Otherwise, this categorical rejection of "negativity" and downtime strikes me as Bliss Ninny territory.

[nerinamakani]

How come every time I say I like emotional pain it becomes an emo thing?

I'm an emotional masochist.

ooooOOOOooooH! Out there!

[Doktor Howl]

How come every time I say I like emotional pain it becomes an emo thing?

I'm an emotional masochist.

ooooOOOOooooH! Out there!

I'm calling "aini".

[nerinamakani]

No you are.

Didn't you ever like being in pain? It's not like I sit around whining about my peers all day and wishing it were different. I just like being sad.. It's not really something I can change. Wouldn't if I could, actually.

And isn't that the second time you've used that comment?

On the same subject?

just curious

[Doktor Howl]

No you are.

Didn't you ever like being in pain?

No.  You seem to have "pain" confused with "angst".

[Thurnez Isa]

if you enjoy it then it's not really pain is it?

[nerinamakani]

I think it's still pain. I mean it feels like pain. But it is pleasurable.
So..both?

That's masochism for you. I like physical pain to.

I think I programmed myself to find sensing things in general to be pleasurable. Probably as a defense mechanism.

Doctor howl, I think perhaps you are typecasting and being a little unimaginative. That's just my opinion though.