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Started by Triple Zero, May 03, 2010, 01:46:17 PM

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This article contains more detail: http://www.newsrecord.org/sections/news/researchers-suggest-iq-alcohol-correlation-1.849034

but I'd like to see the study itself.

I also think it's worth noting that while there may be creative benefits to alcohol and/or drug consumption, absolutely no one is saying that drinking heavily is a good thing. If anything, if this correlation is confirmed with future studies, it should set off alarm bells because it would mean that high-IQ children are at increased risk for alcoholism.

Also, Hawk, "yuppies in trendy bars" aren't necessarily smarter than "NASCAR rednecks". They're just from a different economic demographic. Your observation is essentially irrelevant.

College.

And I'm amazed this study didn't address that.  They kind of get at it by looking at professions, but it is not directly addressed.  But I think if the researchers had looked at attending a 4 year college as a factor, it would have shed some light on their results. 

Kids with higher mental abilities are more likely to attend a 4-year college and colleges, as we know, are hot-beds for social drinking. 

So I don't think it is the IQ, my hunch is it is more to do with whether or not the kid attends college. 

I haven't found the text to the actual study, do you have a link?

http://ajph.aphapublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/98/12/2237

But you need to pay to see the entire article and I don't have access. 
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 04, 2010, 07:19:28 PM
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Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 04, 2010, 06:07:57 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 04, 2010, 05:43:59 PM
Ok, I am not being clear. I posit the amount of education does not in any way pertain to how much one drinks. I have been a blue collar hillybilly most of my life and also rubbed shoulders with highly educated people. It has been MY experience that a cowboy bar is a hell of a lot more fun on Friday night that a yuppie bar. Cowboys are out to have fun a d raise hell and the Yuppies seem to be more interested in impressing others with their wit. I bet a cowboy bar with a decent band sells a hell of a lot more alcohol than the yuppie bar does.

Hope this clears up the confusion.

'uneducated people who go to bars' is a hell of a bias when you're talking about drinking habits.

Wut? Where did I say 'uneducated'?

QuoteI posit the amount of education does not in any way pertain to how much one drinks.

That would imply you felt the yuppie bars are full of the educated and the cowboy bars aren't.

Why?
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Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 04, 2010, 07:19:28 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 04, 2010, 06:26:56 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 04, 2010, 06:07:57 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 04, 2010, 05:43:59 PM
Ok, I am not being clear. I posit the amount of education does not in any way pertain to how much one drinks. I have been a blue collar hillybilly most of my life and also rubbed shoulders with highly educated people. It has been MY experience that a cowboy bar is a hell of a lot more fun on Friday night that a yuppie bar. Cowboys are out to have fun a d raise hell and the Yuppies seem to be more interested in impressing others with their wit. I bet a cowboy bar with a decent band sells a hell of a lot more alcohol than the yuppie bar does.

Hope this clears up the confusion.

'uneducated people who go to bars' is a hell of a bias when you're talking about drinking habits.

Wut? Where did I say 'uneducated'?

QuoteI posit the amount of education does not in any way pertain to how much one drinks.

That would imply you felt the yuppie bars are full of the educated and the cowboy bars aren't.

Any implication of such is yours and not mine. And just for fun what would you estimate the difference between the two types of bar average as far as education? Please keep this in context with higher education which was my actual statement.

Cramulus

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Quote from: Hawk on May 04, 2010, 07:39:55 PM


Any implication of such is yours and not mine.

You were talking about the relationship between education and drinking... then you talked about the difference between yuppie and cowboy bars, and the two topics were not in any way related.

I see.
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Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 04, 2010, 07:45:33 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 04, 2010, 07:39:55 PM


Any implication of such is yours and not mine.

You were talking about the relationship between education and drinking... then you talked about the difference between yuppie and cowboy bars, and the two topics were not in any way related.

I see.

And as for my question to you?

Requia ☣

Fuck the semantics argument though, my point is that you're only considering people who go to bars.
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Requia ☣

Quote from: Hawk on May 04, 2010, 07:46:45 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 04, 2010, 07:45:33 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 04, 2010, 07:39:55 PM


Any implication of such is yours and not mine.

You were talking about the relationship between education and drinking... then you talked about the difference between yuppie and cowboy bars, and the two topics were not in any way related.

I see.

And as for my question to you?
You'll have to ask it again, it made no sense.
Inflatable dolls are not recognized flotation devices.

Adios

Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 04, 2010, 07:47:31 PM
Fuck the semantics argument though, my point is that you're only considering people who go to bars.

To you.

Doktor Howl

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Requia ☣

Quote from: Hawk on May 04, 2010, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 04, 2010, 07:47:31 PM
Fuck the semantics argument though, my point is that you're only considering people who go to bars.

To you.

I see, you talked about people who go to bars, but you meant something completely different.   Clearly I should stop trying to know what you mean based on the words you say.
Inflatable dolls are not recognized flotation devices.

Doktor Howl

Okay, which one of you is implying that cowboy bars are populated with idiots, and which one of you are implying that yuppie bars are full of idiots?

No wimping out.  Speak your piece.
Molon Lube

Adios

Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 04, 2010, 07:56:50 PM
Okay, which one of you is implying that cowboy bars are populated with idiots, and which one of you are implying that yuppie bars are full of idiots?

No wimping out.  Speak your piece.

Neither. I will go public by saying there are more that likely more Ivy League graduates in yuppie bars however. Again Dok the lack of opportunity for a higher education does IN NO WAY imply idiocy, but instead simply a lack of opportunity.

Requiem, I don't put subliminal or hidden messages in what I write. I try to be as plain and to the point as possible.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Hawk on May 04, 2010, 08:02:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 04, 2010, 07:56:50 PM
Okay, which one of you is implying that cowboy bars are populated with idiots, and which one of you are implying that yuppie bars are full of idiots?

No wimping out.  Speak your piece.

Neither.

Okay.  Requia?
Molon Lube