Unlimited Dok Howl Supervillian Thread

[Doktor Howl]

In the interest of science, may I suggest the following experiment? The next time a n00b sashays in and runs through the usual idiotic script - DO NOT RESPOND TO THEM IN ANY WAY. Now, no matter how much this makes your brain explode, no matter how much it loosens your bowels, you must NOT respond. Observe reactions. This is the experimental control.

Then, stage II of the trial is to respond to pinealist idiocy as you normally are inclined. Observe reactions. Compare with control. Perhaps repeat this A vs B a few times to get a wider statistical sample of n00b.

We've done this, but - as noted above - we're doing it again.  Science is all about repeatability.

Especially given Brotep's apparent hypothesis that I somehow force people to act like brainless weasels.

We shall see.  I have already demonstrated what happens when I get involved, so now I will stop (outside of the usual admin responsibilities, etc), and we will see what happens.

Ok. (Though I have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed spagging up the Frequently Asked Questions with you, Nigel & others. That needed doing & I hope the vacuous broad won't feel like posting again for a while)

She isn't a noob, she's an amusement park ride.

Tea out my nose, there. 

Sorry about that. 

[Dimocritus]

I just want to go on record saying that some n00bs (I suppose I can really only speak for myself here) want, need, and appreciate when we or one of our ideas gets ripped to shreds by a senior (or more established) member. It helps to redifine whatever it was you were trying to assert, or realize that it might be an idea worth abandoning. Man, I'd be the biggest idiot here if it weren't for some of you guys ripping my shit apart. Hell, a lot of you are now a part of my "inner dialogue," which helps me refrain from doing stupid shit IRL. "Before I do/say this, how would Dok/Nigel/LMNO/000/Cram/Cain. react to this."

[Doktor Howl]

I just want to go on record saying that some n00bs (I suppose I can really only speak for myself here) want, need, and appreciate when we or one of our ideas gets ripped to shreds by a senior (or more established) member. It helps to redifine whatever it was you were trying to assert, or realize that it might be an idea worth abandoning. Man, I'd be the biggest idiot here if it weren't for some of you guys ripping my shit apart. Hell, a lot of you are now a part of my "inner dialogue," which helps me refrain from doing stupid shit IRL. "Before I do/say this, how would Dok/Nigel/LMNO/000/Cram/Cain. react to this."

Thanks.  But SCIENCE has intervened, and we have to do this.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

We have gotten several excellent newbs, lately, who seem to have simply done the reasonable thing and said, "Hmmm, would I have fun here?" (read a bit) "Yes, I think I would!" and then proceeded to get along perfectly well.

[Doktor Howl]

We have gotten several excellent news, lately, who seem to have simply done the reasonable thing and said, "Hmmm, would I have fun here?" (read a bit) "Yes, I think I would!" and then proceeded to get along perfectly well.

Sure, and there's been a few that had rocky starts, but then recovered.

Because, presumably, I didn't get to them fast enough to MAKE THEM INTO MONSTERS!  MUHAHAHA!

[Brotep]

We have gotten several excellent news, lately, who seem to have simply done the reasonable thing and said, "Hmmm, would I have fun here?" (read a bit) "Yes, I think I would!" and then proceeded to get along perfectly well.

Sure, and there's been a few that had rocky starts, but then recovered.

Both good, yes.

And you could argue pretty convincingly that such is the case for most of the membership here, it's just that we notice spectacular fail because it is spectacular.

Because, presumably, I didn't get to them fast enough to MAKE THEM INTO MONSTERS!  MUHAHAHA!

That is, of course, exactly the issue and not an oversimplification of the following point:
People who act stupid will take any excuse to act stupid. For example, new people who think they have something to say and develop persecution complexes.

The question is, what is our goal? Do we want fluff posting to cease entirely, or are we okay with it as long as it doesn't fuck with good discussion? For me, it's the latter.

If we respond to fluff posted in the appropriate places with diplomacy and wit, completely ignoring it where it is not appropriate to post,

AH BULEEVE WE CAN BUILD A BETTER PEEDEE DOT COM--TOGETHER

[Doktor Howl]

We have gotten several excellent news, lately, who seem to have simply done the reasonable thing and said, "Hmmm, would I have fun here?" (read a bit) "Yes, I think I would!" and then proceeded to get along perfectly well.

Sure, and there's been a few that had rocky starts, but then recovered.

Both good, yes.

And you could argue pretty convincingly that such is the case for most of the membership here, it's just that we notice spectacular fail because it is spectacular.

Because, presumably, I didn't get to them fast enough to MAKE THEM INTO MONSTERS!  MUHAHAHA!

That is, of course, exactly the issue and not an oversimplification of the following point:
People who act stupid will take any excuse to act stupid. For example, new people who think they have something to say and develop persecution complexes.

The question is, what is our goal? Do we want fluff posting to cease entirely, or are we okay with it as long as it doesn't fuck with good discussion? For me, it's the latter.

If we respond to fluff posted in the appropriate places with diplomacy and wit, completely ignoring it where it is not appropriate to post,

AH BULEEVE WE CAN BUILD A BETTER PEEDEE DOT COM--TOGETHER

Bunch of wasted typing.  I have already stated that I am out of the noob-bashing business.  Also, I never said a fucking thing about fluff.

Dok,
Retired horrible tyrant.

[Brotep]

Ah, see...You're doing it again--exaggerating what is said into something ridiculous so that you can dismiss it more easily.

You are a valuable member of this community, which is why I thought it worthwhile to attempt to discuss this. Take it as a sign of respect, rather than a sign of vilification.

Again, this isn't just about you--this is about all of us and how we handle trolls from within and without.

[Doktor Howl]

Ah, see...You're doing it again--exaggerating what is said into something ridiculous so that you can dismiss it more easily.

Bullshit.  You're the one who said I make the noobs act the way they do.

Fuck off now, please.  Thanks.

[Doktor Howl]

And again, I didn't say SHIT about fluff.  Asshole.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

None of this has jack shit to do with fluff posting. Total strawman.

[Doktor Howl]

None of this has jack shit to do with fluff posting. Total strawman.

Made you say that. 

ULTIMATE POWER!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

None of this has jack shit to do with fluff posting. Total strawman.

Made you say that. 

ULTIMATE POWER!

[Doktor Howl]

Shit yeah.

I am also responsible for glam bands!

And I thought I was evil for the male pattern baldness thing, and for inventing PMS.

[hooplala]

I would say you are pretty much the opposite of the problem on this board, Roger.  Without your presence it probably would have died a long time ago.  Your content is solid, and very few people here are smarter than you.

I do, however, think you have a problem in dealing with people who don't agree with you.  I am fully aware I am throwing myself under a bus for saying this, and certainly some Ayn Rand comment is going to pop up (since she does all my thinking for me), but I personally think its a problem that it seems to me like anyone who disagrees with you has to be painted as a purposefully evil person, rather than just mistaken.  Obviously this observation doesn't fit all circumstances and categories, but it fits a lot of them.

This seemed to be something you were aware of, and I understood it to be the reason you 86'd the "TGRR" persona and started anew with Dok Howl, and I was very pleased to see this, but right now Dok Howl doesn't seem a lick different from TGRR, so what WAS the point of the switch?