News:

News:  0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 144 233 377 610 987 1597 2584 4181 6765 10946 17711 28657, motherfuckers.

Main Menu

Controlling firearms

Started by the last yatto, July 29, 2010, 07:32:30 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

Adios

Quote from: The Great Bovinity on August 11, 2010, 12:15:31 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 12:02:49 AM


well, having fired one on numerous with a great deal of accuracy, i will disagree.

So by disagreeing you are saying it's hard or easy?

With a knowledge of firearms it seemed to come very easy.

Nawaxo

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: The Great Bovinity on August 11, 2010, 12:15:31 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 12:02:49 AM


well, having fired one on numerous with a great deal of accuracy, i will disagree.

So by disagreeing you are saying it's hard or easy?

With a knowledge of firearms it seemed to come very easy.

That would still not allow you to fight a coordinated group of soldier. Training goes beyond operating a firearm, and for how much experience of any kind a civilian may have I doubt there isn't someone in the military focused only on the improvement of its soldier's effectiveness in such conditions. It's just that military "technology" (and I don't mean just firearms) went much further away from what a common man with a weapon could do since the war of indipendence.

the last yatto

its really not the firing part that's hard, does an ak even have a safety?

Its keeping on target
Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

Adios

Quote from: Pēleus on August 11, 2010, 12:29:49 AM
its really not the firing part that's hard, does an ak even have a safety?

Its keeping on target

Yes it has a safety. And keeping it on target relies on the knowledge that in fully automatic mode the weapon is going to want to walk skyward. 3 round bursts make it much more easy to control.

Adios

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: The Great Bovinity on August 11, 2010, 12:15:31 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 12:02:49 AM


well, having fired one on numerous with a great deal of accuracy, i will disagree.

So by disagreeing you are saying it's hard or easy?

With a knowledge of firearms it seemed to come very easy.

I may not be being totally honest here. When I was 17 I was in the army and our weapon was the M-16. But it was decades later that I shot an AK-47.

Nawaxo

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 12:33:41 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: The Great Bovinity on August 11, 2010, 12:15:31 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 12:02:49 AM


well, having fired one on numerous with a great deal of accuracy, i will disagree.

So by disagreeing you are saying it's hard or easy?

With a knowledge of firearms it seemed to come very easy.

I may not be being totally honest here. When I was 17 I was in the army and our weapon was the M-16. But it was decades later that I shot an AK-47.

Well, that does make a difference!

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Pēleus on August 11, 2010, 12:29:49 AM
its really not the firing part that's hard, does an ak even have a safety?

Its keeping on target

Yes, an AK47 has a safety.  And if you fire full auto, you aren't going to hit a damn thing.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Nawaxo on August 11, 2010, 12:26:47 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: The Great Bovinity on August 11, 2010, 12:15:31 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 12:02:49 AM


well, having fired one on numerous with a great deal of accuracy, i will disagree.

So by disagreeing you are saying it's hard or easy?

With a knowledge of firearms it seemed to come very easy.

That would still not allow you to fight a coordinated group of soldier. Training goes beyond operating a firearm, and for how much experience of any kind a civilian may have I doubt there isn't someone in the military focused only on the improvement of its soldier's effectiveness in such conditions. It's just that military "technology" (and I don't mean just firearms) went much further away from what a common man with a weapon could do since the war of indipendence.

This is why we won Afghanistan, right?   :lulz:

But what do I know?  I only served 10 years in the infantry, which must mean I have a HUGE Freudian complex, right?

You're a fucking joke.  Your earlier comment makes you no different than Bill O'Reilly or any of the other American right wing nutjob gasbags that try to tell Europeans how to live.
Molon Lube

Adios

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Quote from: Pēleus on August 11, 2010, 12:29:49 AM
its really not the firing part that's hard, does an ak even have a safety?

Its keeping on target

Yes, an AK47 has a safety.  And if you fire full auto, you aren't going to hit a damn thing.

Puts an entire new spin on 'Controlling Firearms', doesn't it?  :lulz:

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 01:05:53 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Quote from: Pēleus on August 11, 2010, 12:29:49 AM
its really not the firing part that's hard, does an ak even have a safety?

Its keeping on target

Yes, an AK47 has a safety.  And if you fire full auto, you aren't going to hit a damn thing.

Puts an entire new spin on 'Controlling Firearms', doesn't it?  :lulz:

Funniest part:  Nowaxo is an Italian, trying to explain warfare.  :lulz:

On the other hand, he's probably dropped a few rifles in his day.
Molon Lube

Adios

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2010, 01:06:48 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 01:05:53 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Quote from: Pēleus on August 11, 2010, 12:29:49 AM
its really not the firing part that's hard, does an ak even have a safety?

Its keeping on target

Yes, an AK47 has a safety.  And if you fire full auto, you aren't going to hit a damn thing.

Puts an entire new spin on 'Controlling Firearms', doesn't it?  :lulz:

Funniest part:  Nowaxo is an Italian, trying to explain warfare.  :lulz:

On the other hand, he's probably dropped a few rifles in his day.

Well, hell, you can't run correctly and carry a rifle at the same time!

Aucoq

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 01:09:10 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2010, 01:06:48 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 01:05:53 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Quote from: Pēleus on August 11, 2010, 12:29:49 AM
its really not the firing part that's hard, does an ak even have a safety?

Its keeping on target

Yes, an AK47 has a safety.  And if you fire full auto, you aren't going to hit a damn thing.

Puts an entire new spin on 'Controlling Firearms', doesn't it?  :lulz:

Funniest part:  Nowaxo is an Italian, trying to explain warfare.  :lulz:

On the other hand, he's probably dropped a few rifles in his day.

Well, hell, you can't run correctly and carry a rifle at the same time!

:lulz:
"All of the world's leading theologists agree only on the notion that God hates no-fault insurance."

Horrid and Sticky Llama Wrangler of Last Week's Forbidden Desire.

Don Coyote

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 12:16:26 AM



With a knowledge of firearms it seemed to come very easy.
That was my point. An m-16 is fairly user friendly. I've never fired an AK, but I have fired an SKS, and a my share of sporting rifles and shot guns. Not a good shot, but that's cuz I can't see much clearly past 250m for a point target.



Quote from: Charley Brown on August 11, 2010, 01:09:10 AM

Well, hell, you can't run correctly and carry a rifle at the same time!

Cuz it's so big and heavy. :lulz:

Elder Iptuous

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Yes, an AK47 has a safety.  And if you fire full auto, you aren't going to hit a damn thing.

well, to be fair, if you are firing automatically, you are presumably just laying down suppressive fire, and aren't really trying to do anything but come close, no?

Adios

Quote from: Iptuous on August 11, 2010, 05:33:04 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Yes, an AK47 has a safety.  And if you fire full auto, you aren't going to hit a damn thing.

well, to be fair, if you are firing automatically, you are presumably just laying down suppressive fire, and aren't really trying to do anything but come close, no?

I still say 3 round bursts are the best.