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Re: What is creative disorder?
« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2010, 07:26:24 am »
That sounds like a good observation.  Sort of like how we seem to place significance on that which is foreground in each of our 'perspectives' rather than background. Then "forget" that implicit inseparability between foreground/background and play a game with ourself that one side is somehow more 'significant'.

Which may or may not get someone into some serious trouble, but it's generally pretty funny when it does.   :fnord:

Exactly. If we overlook the other part of the equation, problems begin to multiply. While it is true that it's all Chaos, you run the risk of oversimplifying it and become complacent and/or "forgetting" that there are opposing forces at work within Chaos. At least, that's how I see it.

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Re: What is creative disorder?
« Reply #46 on: August 23, 2010, 01:08:37 pm »
Another question. If order is an illusion, then what is science?

The Universe doesn't have to follow mathematical laws, but somehow it does. And science works... it can't be an illusion.

Oddly enough, I was talking with an eminent physicist over my holiday.  We were talking about something like this, but in a different manner, and he said something to this effect (paraphrasing):

The laws of nature work very well when we're trying to predict future events.  Things seem to behave in the manner we want them to.  However, when we get very, very small, the only way we can figure out what happened at a certain time is to go and look.  There is no way to accurately predict exactly what will happen due to the very nature of the stuff.

So in the end, even science breaks down, and only the moment remains.  Rather poetic, I think.

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Re: What is creative disorder?
« Reply #47 on: August 23, 2010, 03:56:00 pm »
Yeah, Destruction and Creativity don't need to be treated as polar opposites. I can break a wishbone, and hey, I just created two wishbone-pieces, so it sort of counts as a sort of creation, or at least a changing. All creation is is putting things in an way that is appealing to the human brain, though modern art attempts to break even that, so really, by changing anything, you can call it being creative. Also, knocking over really tall stacks of tin cans makes unique patterns that look pretty awesome, so I guess you could call that creative disorder  :wink:
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Re: What is creative disorder?
« Reply #48 on: August 23, 2010, 04:58:51 pm »
Yeah, Destruction and Creativity don't need to be treated as polar opposites. I can break a wishbone, and hey, I just created two wishbone-pieces, so it sort of counts as a sort of creation, or at least a changing. All creation is is putting things in an way that is appealing to the human brain, though modern at attempts to break even that, so really, by changing anything, you can call it being creative. Also, knocking over really tall stacks of tin cans makes unique patterns that look pretty awesome, so I guess you could call that creative disorder  :wink:

So can calling other departments, saying you're from corporate, and demanding forms that don't exist.
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, shattered underpance lies,
With blown elastic, and exploded back,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Doktor Howl, Spag of Spags:
Look on my ass, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

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Re: What is creative disorder?
« Reply #49 on: August 23, 2010, 10:04:25 pm »
Yeah, Destruction and Creativity don't need to be treated as polar opposites. I can break a wishbone, and hey, I just created two wishbone-pieces, so it sort of counts as a sort of creation, or at least a changing. All creation is is putting things in an way that is appealing to the human brain, though modern at attempts to break even that, so really, by changing anything, you can call it being creative. Also, knocking over really tall stacks of tin cans makes unique patterns that look pretty awesome, so I guess you could call that creative disorder  :wink:

So can calling other departments, saying you're from corporate, and demanding forms that don't exist.

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Re: What is creative disorder?
« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2010, 08:37:04 pm »
By the way, I'm not really quite sure what Chaos is. Being formerly Taoist, I always thought that Chaos was something very much like what Taoists like to call the Tao. I always viewed this as the nature of existence, or the Way things Are.

as have I. I see no reason to draw a distinction between Tao and Chao. In one of my favorite Alan Watts recordings, he says (roughly) "The Tao is divided into 'this' and 'that'. but there is no division, only a circle. And if we were especially honest with ourselves, that circle would encompass the universe, expanding infinitely..." which is what chaos is, the totality of all and nothing, combine. I dig hippy shit like that.

Also, i'll just throw this out there: Sterilization is a Creative Disorder.

Ya' stupid Yank.

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Re: What is creative disorder?
« Reply #51 on: August 26, 2010, 10:12:32 pm »
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