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Started by Cain, August 31, 2010, 05:06:39 PM

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Disco Pickle

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2010, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 06, 2010, 07:47:29 PM
I think you meant public sector, but no that's not what I meant, I meant they would have one that served their community exclusively, and was closer than a public department.  The cost of actually maintaining this service 24/7 would probably be astronomical though.

Private security is used more as a deterent.  People with that kind of money usually get targeted for robbery.  Or with Loliwood types, stalkers. 

But a Class A license gives a security person police powers on the property they are protecting.

http://www.kcmo.org/police/Permits/PrivateSecurityOfficers/index.htm

Um, most robberies are committed against the poor.  And if we allowed the foothills district in Tucson to "opt out" of fire protection, then the hive district would be totally fucked.  If they want their own fire department, let them have it...but they should still be paying their taxes, just as people who send their kids to private schools need to pay their property taxes.

But I hope your party wins this November, because America deserves more republicanism, good and hard.

I'm aware most robberies are commited against the poor.  That has nothing to do with what I said.

QuotePrivate security is used more as a deterent.  People with that kind of money usually get targeted for robbery.  Or with Loliwood types, stalkers. 

Quotebut they should still be paying their taxes, just as people who send their kids to private schools need to pay their property taxes.

I agree with this, and accept that change in perspective.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Doktor Howl

Okay.

But I maintain that I hope your party wins, because America deserves it.
Molon Lube

Disco Pickle

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2010, 08:04:01 PM
Okay.

But I maintain that I hope your party wins, because America deserves it.

the fireworks will be pretty in other parts of the country.

here it's just going to be boring.  At least when Crist was still in as a Repub, we had a chance of getting a closet homosexual into a senate seat.

though, on reflection, I'm sure this would NOT have been a rare occurrence.

"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I wish we could give the Libertarians an island. They could take everything they own with them, and start their own perfect society.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 06, 2010, 08:07:02 PM
I wish we could give the Libertarians an island. They could take everything they own with them, and start their own perfect society.


I hear the Aleutians aren't in use.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 06, 2010, 08:06:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2010, 08:04:01 PM
Okay.

But I maintain that I hope your party wins, because America deserves it.

the fireworks will be pretty in other parts of the country.

here it's just going to be boring.  At least when Crist was still in as a Repub, we had a chance of getting a closet homosexual into a senate seat.

though, on reflection, I'm sure this would NOT have been a rare occurrence.



Why?  You've registered with the party that hates and fears Gays, and actively seeks to deny them basic civil liberties.  Why would you be so interested in seeing a few sneak by?
Molon Lube

Disco Pickle

Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 06, 2010, 08:07:02 PM
I wish we could give the Libertarians an island. They could take everything they own with them, and start their own perfect society.


the funny part is, it would have to more resemble a commune to actually get off the ground.  AWKWARD!

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2010, 08:09:17 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 06, 2010, 08:06:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2010, 08:04:01 PM
Okay.

But I maintain that I hope your party wins, because America deserves it.

the fireworks will be pretty in other parts of the country.

here it's just going to be boring.  At least when Crist was still in as a Repub, we had a chance of getting a closet homosexual into a senate seat.

though, on reflection, I'm sure this would NOT have been a rare occurrence.



Why?  You've registered with the party that hates and fears Gays, and actively seeks to deny them basic civil liberties.  Why would you be so interested in seeing a few sneak by?

You CAN be registered with a political party and not believe every god damn thing that they profess to believe.

personally, I think the social conservatives are nut jobs and want to stab them in the face with something sharp and red hot.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2010, 08:07:53 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 06, 2010, 08:07:02 PM
I wish we could give the Libertarians an island. They could take everything they own with them, and start their own perfect society.


I hear the Aleutians aren't in use.

I can't understand why they don't just move to Somalia.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 06, 2010, 08:11:27 PM

the funny part is, it would have to more resemble a commune to actually get off the ground.  AWKWARD!

That ought to tell you something.


Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 06, 2010, 08:11:27 PM
You CAN be registered with a political party and not believe every god damn thing that they profess to believe.

personally, I think the social conservatives are nut jobs and want to stab them in the face with something sharp and red hot.

And the fiscal conservatives?  Oh, yeah, there aren't any.  So you're in bed with the Gay-baiters and Islamaphobes.  Let us know how that works out for you.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 06, 2010, 08:12:05 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2010, 08:07:53 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 06, 2010, 08:07:02 PM
I wish we could give the Libertarians an island. They could take everything they own with them, and start their own perfect society.


I hear the Aleutians aren't in use.

I can't understand why they don't just move to Somalia.

As I understand it, the Somalis just aren't "pure" enough for an unrestrained, laissez faire economy.

Not sure why.
Molon Lube

Disco Pickle

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2010, 08:13:41 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 06, 2010, 08:11:27 PM

the funny part is, it would have to more resemble a commune to actually get off the ground.  AWKWARD!

That ought to tell you something.


Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 06, 2010, 08:11:27 PM
You CAN be registered with a political party and not believe every god damn thing that they profess to believe.

personally, I think the social conservatives are nut jobs and want to stab them in the face with something sharp and red hot.

And the fiscal conservatives?  Oh, yeah, there aren't any.  So you're in bed with the Gay-baiters and Islamaphobes.  Let us know how that works out for you.

I'm kinda fucked no matter which party.

politically homeless.

but at least I get to laugh at the stupid shit that gets said about gay marriage and adoption and Duh War at the increasingly less frequent meetings I attend.

The splintering is real though.  The party kicked out a couple guys here awhile back for actually saying things that made sense about foreign policy and the costs.  The RPOF don't like dissent.  Now a splinter faction was formed by the ones kicked out and they're drawing decent numbers of supporters from within.

It's all just monkey politics though, really.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 06, 2010, 08:21:41 PM

I'm kinda fucked no matter which party.

So why not join the one that's philosophically opposed to universal civil liberties?   :lulz:
Molon Lube

Don Coyote

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2010, 08:23:06 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 06, 2010, 08:21:41 PM

I'm kinda fucked no matter which party.

So why not join the one that's philosophically opposed to universal civil liberties?   :lulz:

For teh IronyTM!!!!!!







Joke at the situation, not targeting particular people at this time. Because some people get mad when I don't want to piss them off.

Disco Pickle

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2010, 08:23:06 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 06, 2010, 08:21:41 PM

I'm kinda fucked no matter which party.

So why not join the one that's philosophically opposed to universal civil liberties?   :lulz:

at least there's a faction here I can agree with that wants the social conservatives to STFU.

The other party wants to make it illegal for me to say mean things to people.

I just can't get behind that.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 06, 2010, 08:25:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2010, 08:23:06 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 06, 2010, 08:21:41 PM

I'm kinda fucked no matter which party.

So why not join the one that's philosophically opposed to universal civil liberties?   :lulz:

at least there's a faction here I can agree with that wants the social conservatives to STFU.

The other party wants to make it illegal for me to say mean things to people.

I just can't get behind that.

Where did they do that?  Honestly curious.
Molon Lube