Units of Horror

[Juana]

That's unacceptable, that they've been all but abandoned.

The only thing to celebrate today for is my grandfather's eighty-somethingth birthday, so far as I'm concerned. Other than that, it's a day to remember the lives lost and to be grateful to those who tried to save everyone they could (and I agree with Charlie - that should be extended to all those who give without wanting anything in return, everyday). And maybe a day to examine what led to it.

[Prince Glittersnatch III]

rename thread to 'Units of Horror' and thread will be fine.

Sure thing

[the last yatto]

I would have completely forgotten if someone hadn't brought it up. That would have been nice. I hate the idolatry surrounding the date. It's one thing to quietly remember, another entirely to make it into an almost celebratory spectacle.

Reminds me of my rude reminder, a huge airliner appeared just off the horzion of my friends back yard, probally 45 degrees instead of the 70 plus they are usually at.

Guess boeing was showing off their new dreamliner and did a fly by at husky statium,
but holy shit my hearts still racing like eight hours later. Plus my knee still stings a little when I jumped to the floor

[Cain]

So I take it you guys didn't celebrate 9/11, the Most Sacred Time Of Year, by going to see Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck at NineelevenPalooza?  Tickets started at only $65, which I believe is a bargain in these economically troubled times.

[Adios]

So I take it you guys didn't celebrate 9/11, the Most Sacred Time Of Year, by going to see Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck at NineelevenPalooza?  Tickets started at only $65, which I believe is a bargain in these economically troubled times.

[Adios]

I like to retaliate by burning a book that you Americans hold dear, but the only book you care about is Facebook.
http://twitter.com/M_Ahmadinejad/status/24007026734





I nominate this guy for sainthood.

[Elder Iptuous]

So I take it you guys didn't celebrate 9/11, the Most Sacred Time Of Year, by going to see Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck at NineelevenPalooza?  Tickets started at only $65, which I believe is a bargain in these economically troubled times.

ugggh..
i concur!

that's pretty foul..

[Don Coyote]

So I take it you guys didn't celebrate 9/11, the Most Sacred Time Of Year, by going to see Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck at NineelevenPalooza?  Tickets started at only $65, which I believe is a bargain in these economically troubled times.

[Doktor Howl]

to elaborate, I'm not sure why mass murder on an unprecedented scale in modern American history is either "happy" or reason for lulz.

Perpetrated ON Americans.  Modern American history is chock full of far larger numbers than that.

Just saying.

[Cain]

Knock knock.
Who's there?
Nine-Eleven.
Nine-Eleven who?
YOU SAID YOU'D NEVER FORGET ME!

[Doktor Howl]

Knock knock.
Who's there?
Nine-Eleven.
Nine-Eleven who?
YOU SAID YOU'D NEVER FORGET ME!

and 

[East Coast Hustle]

to elaborate, I'm not sure why mass murder on an unprecedented scale in modern American history is either "happy" or reason for lulz.

Perpetrated ON Americans.  Modern American history is chock full of far larger numbers than that.

Just saying.

If we define "modern" as "post WW2", I can't think of any single incident that equals it even if you count incidents where we are the perpetrators. In fact, I can't think of anything post-1900 that qualifies that didn't take place during a declared war (IOW, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Dresden don't count).

[Doktor Howl]

to elaborate, I'm not sure why mass murder on an unprecedented scale in modern American history is either "happy" or reason for lulz.

Perpetrated ON Americans.  Modern American history is chock full of far larger numbers than that.

Just saying.

If we define "modern" as "post WW2", I can't think of any single incident that equals it even if you count incidents where we are the perpetrators. In fact, I can't think of anything post-1900 that qualifies that didn't take place during a declared war (IOW, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Dresden don't count).

I can think of a few, if you're willing to accept, for example, 10 years of pillage and mass murder (2 million people) in Vietnam as a single, discreet incident.  Or 7 years of systematic destruction in Iraq (death toll unknown, but certainly in excess of a half-million people), done for the purpose of handing out fat no bid contracts (we went to war with someone else for the purpose of looting ourselves.  Imagine that.), in a war that we The People justified because the Iraqis are brown, just like the people that attacked us.

Just because we took our time doing it doesn't mean we didn't kill a few million people for no reason other than we could.

[East Coast Hustle]

I'm certainly not arguing that point, I'm just saying I was talking about things that took place all at once. I don't know how many people we whacked at Mai Lai (counts, since Vietnam was never a declared war), but I'm pretty sure it was short of 3,000.

Also, a half-million civilian casualties is the highest figure I've heard for Iraq, and certainly not from sources I consider reliable. I don't think there are any of those as far as Iraq is concerned. Perhaps I'm spending too much time around government scumbags, perhaps not, but just because one side is nothing but lies and propaganda doesn't mean the other side is anything less.

[Doktor Howl]

I'm certainly not arguing that point, I'm just saying I was talking about things that took place all at once. I don't know how many people we whacked at Mai Lai (counts, since Vietnam was never a declared war), but I'm pretty sure it was short of 3,000.

Okay.  I'm counting what we've done in total.

Also, a half-million civilian casualties is the highest figure I've heard for Iraq, and certainly not from sources I consider reliable. I don't think there are any of those as far as Iraq is concerned. Perhaps I'm spending too much time around government scumbags, perhaps not, but just because one side is nothing but lies and propaganda doesn't mean the other side is anything less.

I was counting all casualties, from the initial invasion to the present, military and civilian.