Hipsters fucking love the hurdy-gurdy

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I'll just call them those people from Allston who aren't punks, then.

You can call them whatever you want. I still call them hipsters.

BTW, in 2010 punks are hipsters too.

I call ageism.

[LMNO]

Nah, she's right.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Nah, she's right.

How so? She said the same thing about metalheads.

[LMNO]

It's an identifible genre uniform that while once was simply a natural outgrowth of the cultural zeitgeist has become a rigid set of rules that purposfully sets itself against a cultural norm. 

[Doktor Howl]

Nah, she's right.

The name may change, but the symptoms remain the same.

1950s:  Everyone.
1960s:  Mods.
1970s:  Disco clubbers.
1980s:  Punks (most).
1990s:  Goths.
2000s:  Emos.
2010s:  Hipsters.

[Doktor Howl]

Nah, she's right.

How so? She said the same thing about metalheads.

She does this when we find a group to sneer at.  I consider it a public service.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

It's an identifible genre uniform that while once was simply a natural outgrowth of the cultural zeitgeist has become a rigid set of rules that purposfully sets itself against a cultural norm. 

Hmm. That I can agree with then.

[LMNO]

Wouldn't the 50s be "greasers"?

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Wouldn't the 50s be "greasers"?

Beatniks

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Nah, she's right.

The name may change, but the symptoms remain the same.

1950s:  Everyone.
1960s:  Mods.
1970s:  Disco clubbers.
1980s:  Punks (most).
1990s:  Goths.
2000s:  Emos.
2010s:  Hipsters.

I like this.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Nah, she's right.

How so? She said the same thing about metalheads.

Metal is totally hip and retro. Who the hell DRESSES LIKE A METALHEAD? Only hipsters.

[Doktor Howl]

Wouldn't the 50s be "greasers"?

No.  It would be EVERYONE.  The 1950s was an incredibly conformist decade.  Having the wrong cut of your suit would get you quietly fired.  No shit.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

ZOMG THAT SLAYER T-SHIRT IS SO AWESOME! I LOVE IT!

[Cramulus]

this is an old dance.

the mainstream contains a set of norms / fashions

this creates a demand for things outside of those norms

when people discover this power, they orient onto it, thereby bringing it into the limelight.

Commercialism quickly orients onto the things the cool kids are doing and creates products to fill those demands.


Every cultural movement with a shred of the avant-garde must go through this cycle.


Authenticity is a quality we attribute to the early innovators, ("the first punks were the real punks") but it's just a coat of paint, a precursor to "selling out", which only means that you had something cool enough for other people to want.

[Doktor Howl]

this is an old dance.

the mainstream contains a set of norms / fashions

this creates a demand for things outside of those norms

when people discover this power, they orient onto it, thereby bringing it into the limelight.

Commercialism quickly orients onto the things the cool kids are doing and creates products to fill those demands.


Every cultural movement with a shred of the avant-garde must go through this cycle.


Authenticity is a quality we attribute to the early innovators, ("the first punks were the real punks") but it's just a coat of paint, a precursor to "selling out", which only means that you had something cool enough for other people to want.

Ken Devries said it best:  "Sure, there are oddballs out there, but by the time you've heard of what they do, it's a shrink-wrapped conspiracy product."