Freedom isn't Free

[Adios]

Oh, now it was satire.   

Well yeah.  I said that like 5 times.

Doesn't mean I don't admire some of those labelled as terrorists, but I was intentionally trying to make it look like a pro-military bit up until the last sentence.

Right.

[Don Coyote]

No, you said it like once. Unless you care to..nevermind. Just diaf.

[MMIX]

All I can say is napalm, Little Boy and Fat Man, yeah and quote a wise man who said
"Protip:  When The Cause leads you toward murdering children, find another cause."


NB John Brown's accomplices [not Brown himself] killed five adult slave trackers pro slavers and then later he and his men attacked the Harper's Ferry Armory. Where are all these dead children? Probably killed by the US army when it was putting down the Natives, because that seems to be where the "nits grow into lice" quote more likely comes from.

This thread is making my teeth itch.

[Adios]

All I can say is napalm, Little Boy and Fat Man, yeah and quote a wise man who said
"Protip:  When The Cause leads you toward murdering children, find another cause."


NB John Brown's accomplices [not Brown himself] killed five adult slave trackers pro slavers and then later he and his men attacked the Harper's Ferry Armory. Where are all these dead children? Probably killed by the US army when it was putting down the Natives, because that seems to be where the "nits grow into lice" quote more likely comes from.

This thread is making my teeth itch.

I see, so one justifies the other. Check.

[Freeky]

All I can say is napalm, Little Boy and Fat Man, yeah and quote a wise man who said
"Protip:  When The Cause leads you toward murdering children, find another cause."


NB John Brown's accomplices [not Brown himself] killed five adult slave trackers pro slavers and then later he and his men attacked the Harper's Ferry Armory. Where are all these dead children? Probably killed by the US army when it was putting down the Natives, because that seems to be where the "nits grow into lice" quote more likely comes from.

This thread is making my teeth itch.

I see, so one justifies the other. Check.

MMIX didn't say that at all. It seems more like pointing out a misquote, and the fact that he/she hasn't seen evidence.

Freeky,
a liiiiiitle tired of people misreading things and then putting words in other posters' mouths.

[Adios]

All I can say is napalm, Little Boy and Fat Man, yeah and quote a wise man who said
"Protip:  When The Cause leads you toward murdering children, find another cause."


NB John Brown's accomplices [not Brown himself] killed five adult slave trackers pro slavers and then later he and his men attacked the Harper's Ferry Armory. Where are all these dead children? Probably killed by the US army when it was putting down the Natives, because that seems to be where the "nits grow into lice" quote more likely comes from.

This thread is making my teeth itch.

I see, so one justifies the other. Check.

MMIX didn't say that at all. It seems more like pointing out a misquote, and the fact that he/she hasn't seen evidence.

Freeky,
a liiiiiitle tired of people misreading things and then putting words in other posters' mouths.

I read it the way I read it. I will no longer bother to defend myself.

[Freeky]

All I can say is napalm, Little Boy and Fat Man, yeah and quote a wise man who said
"Protip:  When The Cause leads you toward murdering children, find another cause."


NB John Brown's accomplices [not Brown himself] killed five adult slave trackers pro slavers and then later he and his men attacked the Harper's Ferry Armory. Where are all these dead children? Probably killed by the US army when it was putting down the Natives, because that seems to be where the "nits grow into lice" quote more likely comes from.

This thread is making my teeth itch.

I see, so one justifies the other. Check.

MMIX didn't say that at all. It seems more like pointing out a misquote, and the fact that he/she hasn't seen evidence.

Freeky,
a liiiiiitle tired of people misreading things and then putting words in other posters' mouths.

I read it the way I read it. I will no longer bother to defend myself.

Nothing personal Charley. I'm having a fucking awful day, and the various shitstorms are not helping things.

I hope we're still cool, cuz I like you.

[Adios]

We are kid, love ya.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

All I can say is napalm, Little Boy and Fat Man, yeah and quote a wise man who said
"Protip:  When The Cause leads you toward murdering children, find another cause."


NB John Brown's accomplices [not Brown himself] killed five adult slave trackers pro slavers and then later he and his men attacked the Harper's Ferry Armory. Where are all these dead children? Probably killed by the US army when it was putting down the Natives, because that seems to be where the "nits grow into lice" quote more likely comes from.

This thread is making my teeth itch.

The most famous quote is from Colonel John Chivington, who said "Kill and scalp all, little and big. Nits make lice" before the Sand Creek Massacre. It was a popular phrase to justify murdering indian children, and it may have been coined by the governor of Tennessee around 1810.

[Doktor Howl]

All I can say is napalm, Little Boy and Fat Man, yeah and quote a wise man who said
"Protip:  When The Cause leads you toward murdering children, find another cause."

So, okay.  When someone like Tojo comes along, we should just leave him be, so we don't hurt anyone?

And what the FUCK are you doing dragging Vietnam into this?  Are you suggesting that Vietnam and WWII are morally equivalent, or are you suggesting that I am saying that?

[Doktor Howl]

All I can say is napalm, Little Boy and Fat Man, yeah and quote a wise man who said
"Protip:  When The Cause leads you toward murdering children, find another cause."


NB John Brown's accomplices [not Brown himself] killed five adult slave trackers pro slavers and then later he and his men attacked the Harper's Ferry Armory. Where are all these dead children? Probably killed by the US army when it was putting down the Natives, because that seems to be where the "nits grow into lice" quote more likely comes from.

This thread is making my teeth itch.

I see, so one justifies the other. Check.

MMIX didn't say that at all. It seems more like pointing out a misquote, and the fact that he/she hasn't seen evidence.

Freeky,
a liiiiiitle tired of people misreading things and then putting words in other posters' mouths.

No, Freeky, what MMIX did say is that because I have defended the use of atomic weapons at the end of WWII, I must therefore support the napalming of children in Vietnam.

So, yeah, some people ARE putting words in other posters' mouths.  MMIX is one of them.

[Freeky]

Fuck me. That's my bad.

I need to stay out of these threads, because I can barely understand what's in any one post.

[Doktor Howl]

Don't feel bad, Freeky.  I have, it seems, fallen victim to the truism beast again.

Nigel is of course correct, but there is a rather interesting connection between Chivington and Brown:

http://www.kclonewolf.com/History/SandCreek/sc-documents/soule-pioneer-martyr.html

[MMIX]

Actually Freeky, what Dok Howl implied is that some children are more equal than others and some deserve to be fried because they are foreign and not our children and ENEMIES. I'm not sure that that is what he really meant, any more than his ridiculous implication that the US bombed the shit out of Hiroshima and Nagasaki because the Japanese had been nasty to the Chinese back in the 1930's, but that is what he actually said.


Dok Howl my response is to you having said
"Protip: When The Cause leads you toward murdering children, find another cause."

Governments have causes too, you know, but since you object to my use of Vietnam as an example of an American cause murdering children I append the picture I was originally going to use

Hiroshima in all its military glory.
The bombs were dropped not to end the war with Japan, Japan was already finished. The 140,000 almost entirely civilian deaths were not to prevent the loss of 500,000 American lives in the final assault as was the contemporary excuse/rationale, the PTB already knew that the final assault would not be necessary. Hiroshima was a massive political gambit to put one over on the Russians and by showing that America had The Bomb to scare the shit out of them, as well, in the rush to grab power in the post-war world. And, hell, they weren't our children were they?

It is bad enough that power hungry politicos thought that they would get away with it back then, because they were going to be on the winning side - {War crimes anyone} - but to still find such unquestioning enthusiasm for the mass murder of two whole cities in a generation which wasn't even born at the time makes me retch.

Oh and I love how you credit Nigel with the Brown/Chivington thing which I brought up. And I love the "connection" between them; Capt. Silas A. Soule the man who offered to break Brown out of jail was later attached to Chivington's Regt. I wonder how he managed to work with a boss who was such an anti indian racist when he was such a staunch anti-slavery supporter himself?  Maybe he was brown/black colourblind?

Half this thread has been cut and thrust between lots of posters all trying to put their own spin on the whole Brown was a child murderer thing. Now if any of you had bothered to "history" this thread would have died long, long, ago because I'm not seeing any evidence that he was.



PS

" I have, it seems, fallen victim to the truism beast again."

what the hell does that even mean???

[MMIX]

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All I can say is napalm, Little Boy and Fat Man, yeah and quote a wise man who said
"Protip:  When The Cause leads you toward murdering children, find another cause."


NB John Brown's accomplices [not Brown himself] killed five adult slave trackers pro slavers and then later he and his men attacked the Harper's Ferry Armory. Where are all these dead children? Probably killed by the US army when it was putting down the Natives, because that seems to be where the "nits grow into lice" quote more likely comes from.

This thread is making my teeth itch.

I see, so one justifies the other. Check.

I don't object to your one-liners CB but this one is not self explanatory.