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Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:37:35 PM
I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:37:35 PM
I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?

Molon Lube

Suu

Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:17:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:37:35 PM
I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?



He has adamantly insisted on staying out of it except for noting he was a reptilian. I assume he'll pop in when he's ready.


HELP ME, SIR DIGBY CHICKEN CAESAR! YOU'RE OUR ONLY HOPE!
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:19:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:17:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:37:35 PM
I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?



He has adamantly insisted on staying out of it except for noting he was a reptilian. I assume he'll pop in when he's ready.


HELP ME, SIR DIGBY CHICKEN CAESAR! YOU'RE OUR ONLY HOPE!

I just learned yesterday, to my horror, that Carrie Fisher's mother is Debbie Reynolds.

STAR WARS ROONT.
Molon Lube

Suu

Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:20:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:19:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:17:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:37:35 PM
I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?



He has adamantly insisted on staying out of it except for noting he was a reptilian. I assume he'll pop in when he's ready.


HELP ME, SIR DIGBY CHICKEN CAESAR! YOU'RE OUR ONLY HOPE!

I just learned yesterday, to my horror, that Carrie Fisher's mother is Debbie Reynolds.

STAR WARS ROONT.

And her dad just died.

I'm surprised you didn't know that.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:21:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:20:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:19:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:17:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:37:35 PM
I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?



He has adamantly insisted on staying out of it except for noting he was a reptilian. I assume he'll pop in when he's ready.


HELP ME, SIR DIGBY CHICKEN CAESAR! YOU'RE OUR ONLY HOPE!

I just learned yesterday, to my horror, that Carrie Fisher's mother is Debbie Reynolds.

STAR WARS ROONT.

And her dad just died.

I'm surprised you didn't know that.

That's like learning that Elvis's dad was Perry Como.   :horrormirth:
Molon Lube

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:09:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 30, 2010, 07:03:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:59:27 PM
Let me get this straight:  Blight, your position is that there is no Celt ethnic grouping?

There are distinct ethnic groups (ethnic in a genetic sense) that have in the past or currently identify with Celtic identity. But Celts have never been ethnically unified. Neither have they been politically unified.

In other words, there is no distinct Celtic ethnicity, but there are distinct ethnicities that are or were Celtic.

We're not talking politics, here.

Now, anthropologists will tell you that Celtic cultures were distinct, sharing language, art, religion, social conventions, and (later) writing.

It's also a fact that certain physical traits are common among Celts.

So I'm kind of wondering what you define "ethnicity" as.

Politics were included to cover national identity.

Certain Celts. Ok, you're Cornish and have red hair. This is not unheard of with Irish or Scots. All three identities are close to each other geographically, so it makes sense that those genes would be in high rotation in those areas. But red hair is not a Pan-Celtic trait.

As far as ethnicity, I imagine it depends on the particular ethnic group. I would define my ethnicity as Gaelic. This recognizes common origins with Scots, which is not my national identity. I would not have the same ethnicity as a Halstatt Celt (other than I have trace German heritage, which would make any Halstatt ties so dilute as to be insignificant). Genetic tests of Gaels have indicated common origin with the Basque, who are not Celts. Where and when they diverged, I don't know.

Any common origins with other distinct ethnicities that were Celtic go back well before the Halstatt period.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
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Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Doktor Howl

Molon Lube

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:26:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 30, 2010, 07:22:58 PM
Politics were included to cover national identity.

What national identity?

For example, Irish=Celt, but Celt=/=Irish. Ireland is not representative of other Celts. I was just covering a base in case it came up rather than try to bring up a different point.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:17:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:37:35 PM
I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?



I would welcome his input, even if it contradicts anything that I'm saying.

Funny how a joke about the Welsh turned into this.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 30, 2010, 07:36:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:17:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:37:35 PM
I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?



I would welcome his input, even if it contradicts anything that I'm saying.

Funny how a joke about the Welsh turned into this.

If the Welsh are involved, it's going to turn bad.

Just look at the Spiders thread.  Cudgel is Welshing it up like a madman.
Molon Lube

Don Coyote

Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:38:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 30, 2010, 07:36:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:17:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:37:35 PM
I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?



I would welcome his input, even if it contradicts anything that I'm saying.

Funny how a joke about the Welsh turned into this.

If the Welsh are involved, it's going to turn bad.

Just look at the Spiders thread.  Cudgel is Welshing it up like a madman.
BWAHAHAHAHA

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:38:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 30, 2010, 07:36:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:17:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:37:35 PM
I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?



I would welcome his input, even if it contradicts anything that I'm saying.

Funny how a joke about the Welsh turned into this.

If the Welsh are involved, it's going to turn bad.

Just look at the Spiders thread.  Cudgel is Welshing it up like a madman.

Yeah, I'll know not to do that in the future.

But, I think that I've made all the points that I can, unless someone else wants to address something I missed or didn't adequately explain.
Otherwise I'm ready for Digby Chicken Caesar, or any hidden Celticists to weigh in.

Tear it apart if I'm wrong. I'm playing with the idea of grad schooling in Celtic Language and Literature, so if I'm misinformed, set me straight.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Suu

Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 30, 2010, 07:36:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:17:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:37:35 PM
I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?



I would welcome his input, even if it contradicts anything that I'm saying.

Funny how a joke about the Welsh turned into this.

He may pop in. I dunno...he doesn't want to piss people off and cause a pointless fight.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 30, 2010, 07:36:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 07:17:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 30, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:37:35 PM
I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?



I would welcome his input, even if it contradicts anything that I'm saying.

Funny how a joke about the Welsh turned into this.

He may pop in. I dunno...he doesn't want to piss people off and cause a pointless fight.

What have you DONE to him, Suu?
Molon Lube