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Started by Remington, November 04, 2010, 02:27:45 AM

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Requia ☣

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Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 04, 2010, 03:12:39 PM
I'm pretty sure you can talk them into banning laws of physics as creationist/climate denier measures, without even bothering to make it make sense.

Have them ban the teaching of gravitation since Stephen Hawking has declared it to be the God of the atheists what made the universe.  :lulz:
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Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
Banning Shariah Law.... FFS the Constitution already fucking does that...

You do realize the the Teabaggers don't believe in separation of church and state.  They just think it bans a national religion, they think they you can enforce all the religious laws you want to and are okay with that as long as the religion in question is fundamentalist christianity. 

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Quote from: Durivan on November 04, 2010, 03:52:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
Banning Shariah Law.... FFS the Constitution already fucking does that...

You do realize the the Teabaggers don't believe in separation of church and state.  They just think it bans a national religion, they think they you can enforce all the religious laws you want to and are okay with that as long as the religion in question is fundamentalist christianity.  

Yes, I do realize that. So do the courts.

ETA: I would assume that people in general are aware the the courts believe in separation of church and state, and would prevent Shariah law from having any legal weight. As far as the Tea Baggers, they don't have to do anything about that until they get the take over they think they can achieve, at which point Shariah law wouldn't happen anyway.
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Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: Durivan on November 04, 2010, 03:52:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
Banning Shariah Law.... FFS the Constitution already fucking does that...

You do realize the the Teabaggers don't believe in separation of church and state.  They just think it bans a national religion, they think they you can enforce all the religious laws you want to and are okay with that as long as the religion in question is fundamentalist christianity.  

Yes, I do realize that. So do the courts.

ETA: I would assume that people in general are aware the the courts believe in separation of church and state, and would prevent Shariah law from having any legal weight. As far as the Tea Baggers, they don't have to do anything about that until they get the take over they think they can achieve, at which point Shariah law wouldn't happen anyway.

This.  The yahoos think that their day has come, and a great deal of them honestly believe - I had one tell me this just last week - that it's "freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion".
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The Founders are rolling over in their graves, I'm sure
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Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 04:28:55 PM
The Founders are rolling over in their graves, I'm sure

Why would they worry about a lesser strain like this? 

Patrick Henry would walk away laughing, if you were to take him to WalMart.
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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2010, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 04:28:55 PM
The Founders are rolling over in their graves, I'm sure

Why would they worry about a lesser strain like this? 

Patrick Henry would walk away laughing, if you were to take him to WalMart.

True, I'm thinking more of the facepalm/fucking noobs sort of rolling over in the grave.
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Requia ☣

Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: Durivan on November 04, 2010, 03:52:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
Banning Shariah Law.... FFS the Constitution already fucking does that...

You do realize the the Teabaggers don't believe in separation of church and state.  They just think it bans a national religion, they think they you can enforce all the religious laws you want to and are okay with that as long as the religion in question is fundamentalist christianity.  

Yes, I do realize that. So do the courts.

ETA: I would assume that people in general are aware the the courts believe in separation of church and state, and would prevent Shariah law from having any legal weight. As far as the Tea Baggers, they don't have to do anything about that until they get the take over they think they can achieve, at which point Shariah law wouldn't happen anyway.

Not for much longer.  NPR is reporting that the Obama administration is currently arguing in court that while the first ammendment does provide for separation of church and state, that people should not be allowed to sue the government for violating the establishment clause.

Change!
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Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on November 04, 2010, 04:05:28 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2010, 04:00:36 AM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on November 04, 2010, 03:58:45 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2010, 03:56:10 AM
Gerrymandering isn't moving district lines to add representatives.

It's moving district lines to influence elections.

and it works both ways.

Oh, well, that makes everything okay.  So when you have a major, nation-wide shift in politics, it's okay for the victor to change districts across the board to keep the other party from ever having a fair chance of being elected again?

Nice. 

once again, way to shove words down my mouth.

In my state, this sort of thing has to be on the ballot as a separate amendment, so your milage may vary..

redrawing districts to reflect reality has been a contention here in NF for some 15 years so we may be talking about different oranges, or apples..  or kiwis...


Redrawing districts is one thing


Gerrymandering is the practice of identifying where people of a certain demographic trait (race, income, etc) live, and determining whether or not they're the kind of people you want having a political voice. If not, then you redraw district lines such that this group of undesirables (read: group of people who are likely going to vote against you) has no chance of achieving a majority vote in any given district.

Divide and conquer SURPRISE BUTTSECKS.


Not sure HOW precisely they get away with this; I think it's because no one in a position of sufficient power to stop it either notices, or cares, and the typical person is oblivious to it happening. I sure as shit don't know what's up with districts in my state.

Phox

Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 04, 2010, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: Durivan on November 04, 2010, 03:52:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
Banning Shariah Law.... FFS the Constitution already fucking does that...

You do realize the the Teabaggers don't believe in separation of church and state.  They just think it bans a national religion, they think they you can enforce all the religious laws you want to and are okay with that as long as the religion in question is fundamentalist christianity.  

Yes, I do realize that. So do the courts.

ETA: I would assume that people in general are aware the the courts believe in separation of church and state, and would prevent Shariah law from having any legal weight. As far as the Tea Baggers, they don't have to do anything about that until they get the take over they think they can achieve, at which point Shariah law wouldn't happen anyway.

Not for much longer.  NPR is reporting that the Obama administration is currently arguing in court that while the first ammendment does provide for separation of church and state, that people should not be allowed to sue the government for violating the establishment clause.

Change!
But is it "Change We Can Believe In"?

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 04, 2010, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: Durivan on November 04, 2010, 03:52:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
Banning Shariah Law.... FFS the Constitution already fucking does that...

You do realize the the Teabaggers don't believe in separation of church and state.  They just think it bans a national religion, they think they you can enforce all the religious laws you want to and are okay with that as long as the religion in question is fundamentalist christianity.  

Yes, I do realize that. So do the courts.

ETA: I would assume that people in general are aware the the courts believe in separation of church and state, and would prevent Shariah law from having any legal weight. As far as the Tea Baggers, they don't have to do anything about that until they get the take over they think they can achieve, at which point Shariah law wouldn't happen anyway.

Not for much longer.  NPR is reporting that the Obama administration is currently arguing in court that while the first ammendment does provide for separation of church and state, that people should not be allowed to sue the government for violating the establishment clause.

Change!

Naturally, while the Tea Party will love this, it's further evidence of him being a Muslim trying to enforce Shariah
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Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 04, 2010, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: Durivan on November 04, 2010, 03:52:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
Banning Shariah Law.... FFS the Constitution already fucking does that...

You do realize the the Teabaggers don't believe in separation of church and state.  They just think it bans a national religion, they think they you can enforce all the religious laws you want to and are okay with that as long as the religion in question is fundamentalist christianity.  

Yes, I do realize that. So do the courts.

ETA: I would assume that people in general are aware the the courts believe in separation of church and state, and would prevent Shariah law from having any legal weight. As far as the Tea Baggers, they don't have to do anything about that until they get the take over they think they can achieve, at which point Shariah law wouldn't happen anyway.

Not for much longer.  NPR is reporting that the Obama administration is currently arguing in court that while the first ammendment does provide for separation of church and state, that people should not be allowed to sue the government for violating the establishment clause.

Change!

Naturally, while the Tea Party will love this, it's further evidence of him being a Muslim trying to enforce Shariah

IIRC, this is the lawsuit that taxpayers brought against the Arizona system of tax write offs for sending your kid to a private school. Basically, every dime you spend on a private school is taken off your tax bill. The argument is this is indirectly government paying religious institutions.  The White House is arguing that the Taxpayers have no standing to challenge the government on this. The State is arguing that the government isn't sponsoring religion, because they aren't paying money to the schools... they're just giving the parents a 100% break on that money for their taxes.

I can actually see both sides of the argument (Taxpayers and State)... but the White Houses position is insane.

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Requia ☣

Its not for parents sending their kids to private schools, its for donations to scholarship funds that discriminate based on religion.
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Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 04:54:38 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2010, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 04, 2010, 04:28:55 PM
The Founders are rolling over in their graves, I'm sure

Why would they worry about a lesser strain like this? 

Patrick Henry would walk away laughing, if you were to take him to WalMart.

True, I'm thinking more of the facepalm/fucking noobs sort of rolling over in the grave.

Probably.  Patrick Henry invented "Or Kill Me", and he was fucking serious about having a good time.  He'd facepalm, quit politics, and learn to play electric guitar if he were alive today.
Molon Lube