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Unlike the Democrats, the GOP are wasting no time.

Started by Remington, November 04, 2010, 02:27:45 AM

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AFK

Same.  The Reagan stuff bothered me, but, I thought perhaps he would at least seize upon what looked like a pretty clear mandate from the people to fix some of the crap that got us into trouble.  And I wouldn't have suspected that he could so easily be de-railed by idiots like Palin and Grassley making crap up like "death panels". 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

LMNO

So, been thinking this through, reading analysis, listening to NPR, and I haz question.


If Obama had fought, would Republicans really have let unemployment run out?  And if they did, what would be the result of that?

I'm trying to think of realpolitik results, rather than overly optimistic/pessimistic/apocalyptic answers.

Cain

Of course the Repubs would.  Letting poor people starve practically gives them wood.

The result of that would've been an increase in the crime rate.  Which would then allow the Repubs to hammer the Dems for being soft on crime, while denying them the funds to deal with it either through policing or, you know, letting unemployed people eat.

Adios

Quote from: Cain on December 08, 2010, 03:11:08 PM
Of course the Repubs would.  Letting poor people starve practically gives them wood.

The result of that would've been an increase in the crime rate.  Which would then allow the Repubs to hammer the Dems for being soft on crime, while denying them the funds to deal with it either through policing or, you know, letting unemployed people eat.

This. Citizens are little more than pawns in a large game. Your vote is the only thing that concerns the politicians and they care a little less about that every year.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 08, 2010, 03:06:27 PM
So, been thinking this through, reading analysis, listening to NPR, and I haz question.


If Obama had fought, would Republicans really have let unemployment run out?  And if they did, what would be the result of that?

I'm trying to think of realpolitik results, rather than overly optimistic/pessimistic/apocalyptic answers.

Yes it would have run out and people without jobs would have been screwed. However, the GOP would have proudly pointed out that they fought against a tax-hike AND didn't spend money that we don't have... and the baggers would have eaten it up ... in between their home foreclosures and setting up their new digs at the homeless shelter.
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Quote from: Persona Facade on December 08, 2010, 10:19:59 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on December 08, 2010, 09:56:12 AM
It's not just the GOP. All American politicians are in Big Daddy Oil's pocket.

It's sick and needs to stop. Unfortunately enough Americans don't give a crap and feel it's all SEP. Something disastrous needs to occur to make the public wake up and GET MAD! Nothing in America changes without fear and anger.
:lol:

You mean something disastrous like this?  America has already forgotten about it.
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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on December 08, 2010, 06:17:19 PM
Quote from: Persona Facade on December 08, 2010, 10:19:59 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on December 08, 2010, 09:56:12 AM
It's not just the GOP. All American politicians are in Big Daddy Oil's pocket.

It's sick and needs to stop. Unfortunately enough Americans don't give a crap and feel it's all SEP. Something disastrous needs to occur to make the public wake up and GET MAD! Nothing in America changes without fear and anger.
:lol:

You mean something disastrous like this?  America has already forgotten about it.

Holy Crap! When did that happen? I would have thought they would cover it in the news or something.


:horrormirth:
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on December 08, 2010, 06:17:19 PM
Quote from: Persona Facade on December 08, 2010, 10:19:59 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on December 08, 2010, 09:56:12 AM
It's not just the GOP. All American politicians are in Big Daddy Oil's pocket.

It's sick and needs to stop. Unfortunately enough Americans don't give a crap and feel it's all SEP. Something disastrous needs to occur to make the public wake up and GET MAD! Nothing in America changes without fear and anger.
:lol:

You mean something disastrous like this?  America has already forgotten about it.

Also, for all their hollering about needing a smaller government, Americans have been letting DHS, etc, piss down their throats and tell them it's champaign.

America has lost the capacity to lose their shit.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
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"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Adios

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Persona Facade

Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on December 08, 2010, 06:17:19 PM
You mean something disastrous like this?  America has already forgotten about it.

Something disastrous in a location other than the Gulf of Mexico; we have learned from Hurricane Katrina that few Americans actually care about what happens in the Gulf. Remember Bush's delayed response time?
If a similar even were to somehow happen in the Northeast you can bet action would have been taken.
"You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Persona Facade on December 08, 2010, 07:56:47 PM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on December 08, 2010, 06:17:19 PM
You mean something disastrous like this?  America has already forgotten about it.

Something disastrous in a location other than the Gulf of Mexico; we have learned from Hurricane Katrina that few Americans actually care about what happens in the Gulf. Remember Bush's delayed response time?
If a similar even were to somehow happen in the Northeast you can bet action would have been taken.

Ask Richter and Suu about flooding in Providence, RI.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Disco Pickle

#86
Quote from: Persona Facade on December 08, 2010, 07:56:47 PM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on December 08, 2010, 06:17:19 PM
You mean something disastrous like this?  America has already forgotten about it.

Something disastrous in a location other than the Gulf of Mexico; we have learned from Hurricane Katrina that few Americans actually care about what happens in the Gulf. Remember Bush's delayed response time?
If a similar even were to somehow happen in the Northeast you can bet action would have been taken.

bush responded.  he sent in Blackwater to hold down martial law and confiscate guns from law abiding citizen's homes.

:horrormirth:

[edit] exaggeration, as marshall law was never declared.  guns were taken though.
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Adios

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 08, 2010, 08:21:18 PM
Quote from: Persona Facade on December 08, 2010, 07:56:47 PM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on December 08, 2010, 06:17:19 PM
You mean something disastrous like this?  America has already forgotten about it.

Something disastrous in a location other than the Gulf of Mexico; we have learned from Hurricane Katrina that few Americans actually care about what happens in the Gulf. Remember Bush's delayed response time?
If a similar even were to somehow happen in the Northeast you can bet action would have been taken.

bush responded.  he sent in Blackwater to hold down marshall law and confiscate guns from law abiding citizen's homes.

:horrormirth:

[edit] exaggeration, as marshall law was never declared.  guns were taken though.

Martial law is the imposition of military rule by military authorities over designated regions on an emergency basis—usually only temporary—when the civilian government or civilian authorities fail to function effectively (e.g., maintain order and security, and provide essential services), when there are extensive riots and protests, or when the disobedience of the law becomes widespread. In most cases, military forces are deployed to quiet the crowds, to secure government buildings of key or sensitive locations, and to maintain order. Generally, military personnel replace civil authorities and perform some or all of their functions. The constitution could be suspended, and in full-scale martial law, the highest ranking military General would take over, or be installed, as the military governor or as head of the government, thus removing all power from the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the federal government.

Marshall Law was an Australian television series, which aired for one season in 2002, starring Lisa McCune and Alison Whyte as lawyers and sisters.

Jenne

Ugh, yeah, the murdering by cops that went on during the aftermath of Katrina is only now this past year being made more or less public nationwide.  It turns my stomach.

Adios

Quote from: Jenne on December 08, 2010, 08:34:18 PM
Ugh, yeah, the murdering by cops that went on during the aftermath of Katrina is only now this past year being made more or less public nationwide.  It turns my stomach.

This is why I worry about Verthaine.