Unlimited Wikileaks Shenanigans

[Prince Glittersnatch III]

I had to look it up, at first I thought you might be talking about Boxy Brown from Aqua Teen Hunger Force (I don't go to 4chan). I thought this Che Guevara style rendition (or one like it) would be appropriate for such shenanigans. I still remember when they showed a picture of Weird Al Yankovich superimposed over an inverted pentagram on the news, blaming him for a school shooting...

The whole scapegoat thing is silly, but it's what they do... Like with the columbine tards, except they gave all the publicity to Marilyn Manson, when the kids were clearly too into KMFDM for their own good... Not that KMFDM was at fault, either.

Jeebus, that pic is BIG. lol

If you really wanted to blame something it would probably be Natural Born Killers.
They were obsessed with that movie, and even used it as a codename for the planned shooting.
Of course NBK was all about criticizing the media for glorifying mass murderers...

[Cain]

They were also bullied incessantly by a clique at the school who were protected by the teachers.

What's more likely: OMG BAD MEDIAS creating a pair of killers, or constant mistreatment at the hands of others?

[Fujikoma]

It may have been a bit of both, much more so the mistreatment, not that I'd know what motivated them in particular, but I know the way I was treated in school had me thinking some mighty odd things for a while... I don't think it excuses their actions, however.

[Cain]

Of course not.  But it's hardly unexpected.  Hit people hard enough, they start hitting back.

[BadBeast]

I remember reading an interview with Marilyn Manson, a couple of years after Columbine, and the interviewer asked him, if he had the chance to go back in time, before the shootings,what would he say to the kids (with the Trenchcoats and the Guns) and Manson said  "I wouldn't say anything to them. What the fuck could I? But I would listen to what they had to say, because it's obvious that nobody else was doing that"
Which was the most sensible and relevant thing that I ever heard said concerning the subject.

And this coming from the very same Devil worshipping sex fiend, who brainwashed a whole generation of Good all American Boys,  into being Sex Zombie Emo Buggarist Drug raddled Psychos, with his clever Backmasking, and his God, Jesus, and America hating, Gayist Agenda.
I haven't seen a backlash as hate spewing as that, since Ozzy pissed on the Alamo memorial.

[Fujikoma]

I think I heard that bit about Marilyn Manson somewhere else as well, Badbeast... And yeah, Cain, my thoughts exactly.

It always upsets me when the topic comes up in conversation, for no obvious reason, and other people just don't seem to give a shit WHY it happened, they just want to hate on the perpetrators, like "I don't care how such a thing could be prevented, I just want to seethe with hatred and condemnation", as if the way they were treated was somehow excusable, because they failed one too many times at being social. Then, because I try to point those very things out, suddenly I'M the bad guy who approves of murderers. I've never understood that line of reasoning.

/soapbox

[Cain]

Because people think explaining = sympathizing = agreeing with the perps.

Trust me, I've had to put up with the same thing many times while studying terrorism.

[BadBeast]

People don't like you messing with their God given right to be as terrified as they choose to be, of whoever the fuck they want.  If more people studied Terrorism, they might lose some of their hard earned fear. Thereby winding down the Terror level. And you can't have that.
Al Quaeda might get downsized, into "Mild Alarmists".
Suicide Bombers would change their whole process, and resort to jumping out on people, in masks, and going "BOO"!! Before slashing themselves with a knife (To prove their resolve) and running off. Then Airport Security could maybe just go back to giving everyone the Stinkeye as they go through Customs, instead of checking everyone's genitalia for explodium.

[The Johnny]

Because common sense dictates that actions should be taken at face-value, regardless of motivations behind them.

[Fujikoma]

They say the problem with common sense is that it isn't so common... In the case of your statement, Joh'Nyx, I wish that were the truth.

I've completely lost touch with what common sense is all about... If I ever had an idea in the first place. Seems like a bunch of crap people make up as they go along, from my perspective.

[BadBeast]

When people say "Common sense" they generally mean "Consensus option".

[The Johnny]

What i meant is that people in general retardedly assume that an action can be intrinsically good or wrong, while there needs to be a context to a certain action always. To be more clear, this thought spawned from this:

It always upsets me when the topic comes up in conversation, for no obvious reason, and other people just don't seem to give a shit WHY it happened, they just want to hate on the perpetrators, like "I don't care how such a thing could be prevented, I just want to seethe with hatred and condemnation", as if the way they were treated was somehow excusable.

But not exactly in the same sense as the original intent of how it was said...

For example, Americans are big anti-terror war mongers while forgetting that their own actions are part of the reason terrorism is happening in the first place.

[Adios]

What i meant is that people in general retardedly assume that an action can be intrinsically good or wrong, while there needs to be a context to a certain action always. To be more clear, this thought spawned from this:

It always upsets me when the topic comes up in conversation, for no obvious reason, and other people just don't seem to give a shit WHY it happened, they just want to hate on the perpetrators, like "I don't care how such a thing could be prevented, I just want to seethe with hatred and condemnation", as if the way they were treated was somehow excusable.

But not exactly in the same sense as the original intent of how it was said...

For example, Americans are big anti-terror war mongers while forgetting that their own actions are part of the reason terrorism is happening in the first place blind sheep who will follow the idiot who is currently screaming the loudest on the TV.

Had to fix that.

[Prince Glittersnatch III]

They were also bullied incessantly by a clique at the school who were protected by the teachers.

What's more likely: OMG BAD MEDIAS creating a pair of killers, or constant mistreatment at the hands of others?

Contributing to thread derailment:

Also both the shooters had histories of mental illness. But insane people acting insane isnt really a good news story.

[Fujikoma]

The most dangerous killers are quite sane. Columbine was a pretty rare incident, though it inspired

They were also bullied incessantly by a clique at the school who were protected by the teachers.

What's more likely: OMG BAD MEDIAS creating a pair of killers, or constant mistreatment at the hands of others?

Contributing to thread derailment:

Also both the shooters had histories of mental illness. But insane people acting insane isnt really a good news story.

*insert ill-informed rant about discrimination against the mentally ill due to media sensationalism*