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Started by Enrico Salazar, November 29, 2010, 09:35:40 PM

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Pope Pixie Pickle

Quote from: Enrico Salazar on November 30, 2010, 08:22:38 PM
So, Enrico should not slice a bitch?

:argh!: :cry: :? :wink: :D

no, enrico should go back to being Generalissimo.. wif the laydeez.

the last yatto

Only if there was someone who would make golden apple beads
for the benefit of more ram in the holy server

Or we just turn off search function and change the link to site search google link

Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

Faust

Quote from: Pēleus on November 30, 2010, 10:48:48 PM
Only if there was someone who would make golden apple beads
for the benefit of more ram in the holy server

Or we just turn off search function and change the link to site search google link


We did that and I got almost daily messages asking me when search was coming back.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

the last yatto

Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

Sir Squid Diddimus

Quote from: Faust on November 30, 2010, 06:17:17 PM
Quote from: postvex™ on November 30, 2010, 05:54:45 PM
i still prefer the "set up a store and sell shit we come up with" idea to the "make people start paying a fee for what they're already used to getting for free" idea (or any variant thereof).
The donation system works better then any idea of a fee anyway. Because of this thread (I think) someone just donated. :)

You're welcome. I enjoyed my receipt.
A lot!

Faust

Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on November 30, 2010, 11:24:39 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 30, 2010, 06:17:17 PM
Quote from: postvex™ on November 30, 2010, 05:54:45 PM
i still prefer the "set up a store and sell shit we come up with" idea to the "make people start paying a fee for what they're already used to getting for free" idea (or any variant thereof).
The donation system works better then any idea of a fee anyway. Because of this thread (I think) someone just donated. :)

You're welcome. I enjoyed my receipt.
A lot!
Ah ha, I wasn't sure who it was. Thank you.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Sir Squid Diddimus

I figured it's about time I gave something back.
Besides all the vomit and pain.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Faust on November 30, 2010, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 30, 2010, 06:22:21 PM
Yeah, "alms collection" has worked pretty well so far.  I'm just trying to figure out how much more we'd need to donate.
Well currently we are set to: 762 MB for $38.10/month. It works off a slider, for instance 1003MB costs $50.15/month.

762 doesn't seem to be too bad, the site slows up on searches or large queries but otherwise we don't seem to be getting as many people left hanging for long periods of time;
Its not entirely necessary to up Res now, in fact I'd prefer to find a way to make things more efficient so we don't need it set as high as it is.
There are a number of things that can be tried, I looked at some that trip posted the other day, one's now in place but there are other things that can utilised as well.

This is all pretty boring stuff, if people want I can split it out of Enrico's thread.



Whoa what. That's data transfer? I missed this before but holy motherfucking shit they are fucking RAPING THE FUCK OUT OF YOU. I am vaguely dissatisfied with my web host  and they offer 10GB at $8/month. What the fuck.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Faust

Quote from: Nigel on November 30, 2010, 11:41:32 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 30, 2010, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 30, 2010, 06:22:21 PM
Yeah, "alms collection" has worked pretty well so far.  I'm just trying to figure out how much more we'd need to donate.
Well currently we are set to: 762 MB for $38.10/month. It works off a slider, for instance 1003MB costs $50.15/month.

762 doesn't seem to be too bad, the site slows up on searches or large queries but otherwise we don't seem to be getting as many people left hanging for long periods of time;
Its not entirely necessary to up Res now, in fact I'd prefer to find a way to make things more efficient so we don't need it set as high as it is.
There are a number of things that can be tried, I looked at some that trip posted the other day, one's now in place but there are other things that can utilised as well.

This is all pretty boring stuff, if people want I can split it out of Enrico's thread.



Whoa what. That's data transfer? I missed this before but holy motherfucking shit they are fucking RAPING THE FUCK OUT OF YOU. I am vaguely dissatisfied with my web host  and they offer 10GB at $8/month. What the fuck.
No no, our transfer is 4 TB, the actual server CPU speed is what chokes us.
We have: Excellent storage space, excellent bandwidth (or transfer if you prefer).
But also we have shitty ram.
But I think I've fond a way to fix that and cut down the cost by a lot.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Faust on November 30, 2010, 11:46:19 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 30, 2010, 11:41:32 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 30, 2010, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 30, 2010, 06:22:21 PM
Yeah, "alms collection" has worked pretty well so far.  I'm just trying to figure out how much more we'd need to donate.
Well currently we are set to: 762 MB for $38.10/month. It works off a slider, for instance 1003MB costs $50.15/month.

762 doesn't seem to be too bad, the site slows up on searches or large queries but otherwise we don't seem to be getting as many people left hanging for long periods of time;
Its not entirely necessary to up Res now, in fact I'd prefer to find a way to make things more efficient so we don't need it set as high as it is.
There are a number of things that can be tried, I looked at some that trip posted the other day, one's now in place but there are other things that can utilised as well.

This is all pretty boring stuff, if people want I can split it out of Enrico's thread.



Whoa what. That's data transfer? I missed this before but holy motherfucking shit they are fucking RAPING THE FUCK OUT OF YOU. I am vaguely dissatisfied with my web host  and they offer 10GB at $8/month. What the fuck.
No no, our transfer is 4 TB, the actual server CPU speed is what chokes us.
We have: Excellent storage space, excellent bandwidth (or transfer if you prefer).
But also we have shitty ram.
But I think I've fond a way to fix that and cut down the cost by a lot.

Oh OK.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Triple Zero

Quote from: Faust on November 30, 2010, 07:19:50 PMMaybe it wont be necessary if this works, I want to get onto trip, he's fantastic at this stuff.

Um. Have you tried turning it off and on again? :)

Seriously, I'm PMing with Faust over possibilities right now. If Search is the only thing that requires all that extra memory and $$$, then there must be ways to get around that. Saving $15 on the monthly bill sounds like a good deal. Although if I would charge any kind of consulting fees for the work I'm doing, buying our own dedicated server would become cost-effective real quick :-P [I'm kidding of course I would never].




As far as the quoting function goes, I'm really happy it's back to normal. It got me quite a few times, and I've gone back and copy-pasted extra quotes too.

If we were to reduce the quoting (for whatever reason) I would really like to have at least one level of nested quotes, because conversing with multiple people on a forum often means that you're replying one page later to something X said in reply to Y, and not having that one extra level of context made me wonder if my reply would be clear enough. Also, I generally look at the quoted text myself when typing the reply, cause sometimes it's not visible in the tail of the thread below the post editor.




To Hoopla being flabbergasted about people not having wanted to pay $1 when they signed up years ago, it actually confuses me that it confuses you so much :)

Really, this place is awesome, and if it would be the same place and I had to pay $1 or $10 per year, sure I'd do it, no doubt. But way back then, I had no idea, just as LMNO I googled "Discordian Forum", lurked a bit, and registered because I wanted to voice my opinion on some stuff. But I think only after hanging around here for a year or two I felt enough connection with this place to justify paying for it.

As soon as I get a job that makes me some spare money I'll donate, but in the mean time I'll have to contribute in natura by adminning the place :)

BTW Faust, did you ever check if receiving donations to pay for the hosting has any tax-implications for you? Might be worth looking into, to prevent nasty surprises like this guy had: http://www.reddit.com/r/business/comments/e64rs/according_to_the_irs_you_are_a_private_contractor/ (though he paid for the upkeep with Google Ads, and apparently made some dumb mistakes that I have no clue about since I dunno how the US taxes system works)
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Faust

Quote from: Triple Zero on December 01, 2010, 12:15:12 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 30, 2010, 07:19:50 PMMaybe it wont be necessary if this works, I want to get onto trip, he's fantastic at this stuff.

Um. Have you tried turning it off and on again? :)

Seriously, I'm PMing with Faust over possibilities right now. If Search is the only thing that requires all that extra memory and $$$, then there must be ways to get around that. Saving $15 on the monthly bill sounds like a good deal. Although if I would charge any kind of consulting fees for the work I'm doing, buying our own dedicated server would become cost-effective real quick :-P [I'm kidding of course I would never].




As far as the quoting function goes, I'm really happy it's back to normal. It got me quite a few times, and I've gone back and copy-pasted extra quotes too.

If we were to reduce the quoting (for whatever reason) I would really like to have at least one level of nested quotes, because conversing with multiple people on a forum often means that you're replying one page later to something X said in reply to Y, and not having that one extra level of context made me wonder if my reply would be clear enough. Also, I generally look at the quoted text myself when typing the reply, cause sometimes it's not visible in the tail of the thread below the post editor.




To Hoopla being flabbergasted about people not having wanted to pay $1 when they signed up years ago, it actually confuses me that it confuses you so much :)

Really, this place is awesome, and if it would be the same place and I had to pay $1 or $10 per year, sure I'd do it, no doubt. But way back then, I had no idea, just as LMNO I googled "Discordian Forum", lurked a bit, and registered because I wanted to voice my opinion on some stuff. But I think only after hanging around here for a year or two I felt enough connection with this place to justify paying for it.

As soon as I get a job that makes me some spare money I'll donate, but in the mean time I'll have to contribute in natura by adminning the place :)

BTW Faust, did you ever check if receiving donations to pay for the hosting has any tax-implications for you? Might be worth looking into, to prevent nasty surprises like this guy had: http://www.reddit.com/r/business/comments/e64rs/according_to_the_irs_you_are_a_private_contractor/ (though he paid for the upkeep with Google Ads, and apparently made some dumb mistakes that I have no clue about since I dunno how the US taxes system works)
It isn't enough to ever be taxable, and I fall under Irish tax law. I think. If I fall under American tax law then I'll just ignore it if it ever comes up.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

AFK

Just be careful with that.  You don't want to end up like Wesley Snipes.  :D
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Faust

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 01, 2010, 01:26:17 PM
Just be careful with that.  You don't want to end up like Wesley Snipes.  :D
He paid it off in the end, no jail time for celebs.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

AFK

Okay, swap Wesley Snipes for that guy that won the first season of Survivor. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.