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Started by Prince Glittersnatch III, December 15, 2010, 09:14:00 PM

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QuoteA financial manager for wealthy clients will not face felony charges for a hit-and-run because it could jeopardize his job, prosecutors said Thursday.

You see, if you have a high paying job you dont have to worry about hit and run charges.
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Disco Pickle

ok, I can see a prosecutor doing this.

you have two people who's lives are now fucked for the remainder of their time on the planet. 

one of them is at fault and one of them has unexpected and very expensive medical bills piling up.

the one who is at fault is gainfully employed and probably makes enough to make restitution for the medical bills actually possible without being crippling and forcing bankruptcy.

so if they drop the felony charge to a lesser one, the one at fault doesn't run the risk of doing time, losing his job, and making them both doubly fucked. 

there's nothing stopping the guy who got hit from filing a civil suit as well.

I know it doesn't seem that way on the face of it, but I see this as the best compromise.

eye for an eye would make them both stupid and broke.

</end> 2 cents
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Uh, this is not simply an accident.  The guy hit someone, then drove away without calling 911, because it wasn't worth his time to try and get medical help for someone he nearly killed.
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Quote from: Requia ☣ on December 16, 2010, 12:38:52 AM
Uh, this is not simply an accident.  The guy hit someone, then drove away without calling 911, because it wasn't worth his time to try and get medical help for someone he nearly killed.

and Im not defending that.  If the guy hadn't been fucked up by it I'd say lock him away for as long as possible.

I said that locking him away and him losing his ability to repay his restitution is lose lose for the victim.  he gets fucked twice.
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Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 15, 2010, 11:20:11 PM
ok, I can see a prosecutor doing this.

you have two people who's lives are now fucked for the remainder of their time on the planet. 

one of them is at fault and one of them has unexpected and very expensive medical bills piling up.

the one who is at fault is gainfully employed and probably makes enough to make restitution for the medical bills actually possible without being crippling and forcing bankruptcy.

so if they drop the felony charge to a lesser one, the one at fault doesn't run the risk of doing time, losing his job, and making them both doubly fucked. 

there's nothing stopping the guy who got hit from filing a civil suit as well.

I know it doesn't seem that way on the face of it, but I see this as the best compromise.

eye for an eye would make them both stupid and broke.

</end> 2 cents

This does make sense.  although it would be better if the prosecutor could wait to bring charges until after the civil case.
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Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 16, 2010, 12:45:26 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on December 16, 2010, 12:38:52 AM
Uh, this is not simply an accident.  The guy hit someone, then drove away without calling 911, because it wasn't worth his time to try and get medical help for someone he nearly killed.

and Im not defending that.  If the guy hadn't been fucked up by it I'd say lock him away for as long as possible.

I said that locking him away and him losing his ability to repay his restitution is lose lose for the victim.  he gets fucked twice.

Ok that kinda makes sense, let me address it differently

On one hand it makes less sense to keep a rich guy (who likely has investments that can be used to repay the victim) out of jail than somebody poor (who would need to work the debt off).

On the other hand, this is America, why would we deny the victim the chance to sue the guy for 10 times what his medical bills were.   :lulz:
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Quote from: Requia ☣ on December 16, 2010, 12:56:53 AM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 16, 2010, 12:45:26 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on December 16, 2010, 12:38:52 AM
Uh, this is not simply an accident.  The guy hit someone, then drove away without calling 911, because it wasn't worth his time to try and get medical help for someone he nearly killed.

and Im not defending that.  If the guy hadn't been fucked up by it I'd say lock him away for as long as possible.

I said that locking him away and him losing his ability to repay his restitution is lose lose for the victim.  he gets fucked twice.

Ok that kinda makes sense, let me address it differently

On one hand it makes less sense to keep a rich guy (who likely has investments that can be used to repay the victim) out of jail than somebody poor (who would need to work the debt off).

On the other hand, this is America, why would we deny the victim the chance to sue the guy for 10 times what his medical bills were.   :lulz:

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Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 15, 2010, 11:20:11 PM
ok, I can see a prosecutor doing this.

you have two people who's lives are now fucked for the remainder of their time on the planet. 

one of them is at fault and one of them has unexpected and very expensive medical bills piling up.

the one who is at fault is gainfully employed and probably makes enough to make restitution for the medical bills actually possible without being crippling and forcing bankruptcy.

so if they drop the felony charge to a lesser one, the one at fault doesn't run the risk of doing time, losing his job, and making them both doubly fucked. 

there's nothing stopping the guy who got hit from filing a civil suit as well.

I know it doesn't seem that way on the face of it, but I see this as the best compromise.

eye for an eye would make them both stupid and broke.

</end> 2 cents

Okay, but do you think this kind of treatment would be given to some retail clerk who barely clears $20,000 a year?  Do you think they'd drop the felony charge so he doesn't lose his job?  Naw, they'd pin his ass to the wall and go for blood. 
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Disco Pickle

Yep they would.  There'd be no chance at all that he'd ever be able to pay the restitution so there's no incentive for the prosecution to let him off.

I imagine he's trying to have the best possible situation for the victim, which would be ensuring his medical bills can be paid by the person at fault.

Like I said, it looks shady on the surface, but really is the best thing for the victim IMO.
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Which is hilarious given that the victim disagrees with the prosecutor's decision. 
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Disco Pickle

he's angry (and rightly so) and wants his eye from the guy.  cant really blame him, but I'm willing to bet it's more emotion than reason that wants this guy put in prison and to loose his job.

really not defending the guy, as anyone who runs after a hit deserves the biggest justice stick that can be found shoved up their ass.

but I'm willing to bet if the victim is STILL bed ridden, that he's going to be paying for this for the rest of his life in more ways than one.  He should take the way that will put the least possible financial burden on himself and his family, even if it means not seeing the guy do 10-15 years.

again, the above is all opinion.
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