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Russian/Armenian officials attempt to stamp out EMO threat.
« on: December 27, 2010, 01:16:46 am »
http://www.france24.com/en/20101226-armenian-police-target-teenage-rock-cult

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AFP - When police officers arrived at 13-year-old Masha's home, searched her room and inspected her computer, it was not because they suspected her of any crime.

Her offence was simply to be a devoted follower of the angst-ridden punk-rock subculture known as 'emo', in an ex-Soviet state where pressures to conform remain strong.

"It was offensive and frightening at the same time," said Masha, a schoolgirl in the Armenian capital, clearly upset by the experience.

Police in Yerevan have been conducting a campaign against the capital's small but controversial emo community since the recent suicides of two teenagers who were rumoured to have been emo fans.

They claim that the subculture represents a threat to young people's welfare.

Officers have visited schools, searched pupils whose distinctive clothing marks them out as possible 'emos', and mounted surveillance on public places where young people gather.

Several fans have been detained for questioning, despite the lack of any specific legislation against the musical genre or its followers.

In a recent newspaper interview, Armenia's Chief of Police, Alik Sarkisian, claimed that emo could "damage our gene pool". "We should fight against such phenomena because they are morally harmful to our people," he said.

Emo -- an abbreviation of 'emotional' -- is a more melodic and melancholy form of punk rock. It has origins in the United States but has become a well-established global subculture in recent years.

Masha and her friend Ani, also 13, say they started dressing in the unconventional emo style in an attempt to stand out from what they call "the grey masses".

But they now feel that they have to disguise themselves in ordinary clothes for fear of detention or harassment by other youths. "They point and laugh at us. Or even worse, they sometimes beat up our boys," Ani said.

Sensationalist media reports in Europe have suggested that the gloomy lyrics of some emo songs can influence teenagers to harm themselves or attempt suicide, although fans have consistently rejected the accusation.

Emo devotees in Britain and Russia staged protests two years ago against what they saw as negative stereotyping.

Some people in Yerevan not only believe that emo can cause suicidal depression, but also see it as a degenerate Western influence on traditional Armenian values.

Members of the youth wing of a local police association held a march against the subculture in the capital this month, carrying banners that read "No to foreign perversions!"

One teacher in a Yerevan suburb, who asked not to be named, said the directors of some schools supported the police action, and had even been actively encouraging officers to search pupils who dressed unusually and check them for signs of self-harm.

"We suspected one female pupil of being an emo. We invited our district policeman and the pupil's parents to come in, and explained how dangerous the consequences of this could be," the teacher said.

A local human rights activist compared the police's behaviour to a Communist-era witch-hunt.

"It is like the repression in Soviet times, when law enforcement agencies were chasing hippies, punks and rockers -- all those who refused to live within society's limits and be like everyone else," said Mikael Danielian, chairman of the Helsinki Committee of Armenia.

But the police say they are only intervening to protect vulnerable youngsters. "We are simply doing our job," said the police colonel responsible for youth affairs, Nelli Durian.

"We are conducting explanatory, preventative work among teenagers and their parents to prevent children from becoming hooligans and from thoughts of suicide."

However, she said that she could not blame emo music for the reported rise in teenage suicide attempts in Armenia this year.

Young fans like Masha and Ani have been worried by the anti-emo campaign, but they insist that they will not be pressured into abandoning the subculture that they love.

"It is impossible to ban youth movements using repressive methods," Ani said defiantly. "We will not stop listening to our music and dressing how we like. This is my choice."

Anybody know any good Russian/Armenian EMO message boards, and an English/ Russian/ Armenian translator?
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Re: Russian/Armenian officials attempt to stamp out EMO threat.
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2010, 01:19:05 am »
http://www.france24.com/en/20101226-armenian-police-target-teenage-rock-cult

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AFP - When police officers arrived at 13-year-old Masha's home, searched her room and inspected her computer, it was not because they suspected her of any crime.

Her offence was simply to be a devoted follower of the angst-ridden punk-rock subculture known as 'emo', in an ex-Soviet state where pressures to conform remain strong.

"It was offensive and frightening at the same time," said Masha, a schoolgirl in the Armenian capital, clearly upset by the experience.

Police in Yerevan have been conducting a campaign against the capital's small but controversial emo community since the recent suicides of two teenagers who were rumoured to have been emo fans.

They claim that the subculture represents a threat to young people's welfare.

Officers have visited schools, searched pupils whose distinctive clothing marks them out as possible 'emos', and mounted surveillance on public places where young people gather.

Several fans have been detained for questioning, despite the lack of any specific legislation against the musical genre or its followers.

In a recent newspaper interview, Armenia's Chief of Police, Alik Sarkisian, claimed that emo could "damage our gene pool". "We should fight against such phenomena because they are morally harmful to our people," he said.

Emo -- an abbreviation of 'emotional' -- is a more melodic and melancholy form of punk rock. It has origins in the United States but has become a well-established global subculture in recent years.

Masha and her friend Ani, also 13, say they started dressing in the unconventional emo style in an attempt to stand out from what they call "the grey masses".

But they now feel that they have to disguise themselves in ordinary clothes for fear of detention or harassment by other youths. "They point and laugh at us. Or even worse, they sometimes beat up our boys," Ani said.

Sensationalist media reports in Europe have suggested that the gloomy lyrics of some emo songs can influence teenagers to harm themselves or attempt suicide, although fans have consistently rejected the accusation.

Emo devotees in Britain and Russia staged protests two years ago against what they saw as negative stereotyping.

Some people in Yerevan not only believe that emo can cause suicidal depression, but also see it as a degenerate Western influence on traditional Armenian values.

Members of the youth wing of a local police association held a march against the subculture in the capital this month, carrying banners that read "No to foreign perversions!"

One teacher in a Yerevan suburb, who asked not to be named, said the directors of some schools supported the police action, and had even been actively encouraging officers to search pupils who dressed unusually and check them for signs of self-harm.

"We suspected one female pupil of being an emo. We invited our district policeman and the pupil's parents to come in, and explained how dangerous the consequences of this could be," the teacher said.

A local human rights activist compared the police's behaviour to a Communist-era witch-hunt.

"It is like the repression in Soviet times, when law enforcement agencies were chasing hippies, punks and rockers -- all those who refused to live within society's limits and be like everyone else," said Mikael Danielian, chairman of the Helsinki Committee of Armenia.

But the police say they are only intervening to protect vulnerable youngsters. "We are simply doing our job," said the police colonel responsible for youth affairs, Nelli Durian.

"We are conducting explanatory, preventative work among teenagers and their parents to prevent children from becoming hooligans and from thoughts of suicide."

However, she said that she could not blame emo music for the reported rise in teenage suicide attempts in Armenia this year.

Young fans like Masha and Ani have been worried by the anti-emo campaign, but they insist that they will not be pressured into abandoning the subculture that they love.

"It is impossible to ban youth movements using repressive methods," Ani said defiantly. "We will not stop listening to our music and dressing how we like. This is my choice."

Anybody know any good Russian/Armenian EMO message boards, and an English/ Russian/ Armenian translator?
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Re: Russian/Armenian officials attempt to stamp out EMO threat.
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2010, 02:01:06 am »
That's absurd. I'm not much of a fan of any kind of punk (though I will admit that I've heard some that I like), but still... The crazy thing is this kind of rationalization of the invasion of privacy is not so foreign as it may at first seem, there often seems to be an unusual volume of "ends justify the means" violations. Are such incidents evidence of some catastrophic domino effect of failing human logic? Or are they part of some sinister agenda? Perhaps only time will tell.

And "damage the gene pool"... Really? Music and style of dress somehow damaging the gene pool? What black hole of stupid do these idiots crawl out of?

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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2010, 03:54:21 am »
Yeah, I'm not sure about that whole Genetic thing either.

Emo kids commit suicide thereby reducing the innate level of Emo-ness in Armenian society?

Aaaaaand they're afraid that this will have a negative impact on their rich Emo heritage?
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Re: Russian/Armenian officials attempt to stamp out EMO threat.
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2010, 04:06:20 am »
Maybe the Gene pool thing is a translation issue?

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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2010, 05:06:22 am »
Maybe they meant "jean pool", as in, fewer potential contributors to a community blue-jeans fund? Na, that's too much of a stretch, and probably wouldn't make sense in Armenian, Russian or whatever.

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2010, 08:35:35 am »

Finally someone is doing something about these emos.
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2010, 09:03:38 am »
We fight them over there, so...


Whatever.


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Re: Russian/Armenian officials attempt to stamp out EMO threat.
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2010, 12:57:28 am »
I figure any sub-community prone to suicide is pretty much a self correcting problem.
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2010, 05:06:13 am »
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Members of the youth wing of a local police association held a march against the subculture in the capital this month, carrying banners that read "No to foreign perversions!"

They think emos are a perversion, wait till we get Russian hipsters.

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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2010, 05:20:58 am »
Wait. The youth wing of the police association?
What does that even mean?
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2010, 05:34:20 am »
Wait. The youth wing of the police association?
What does that even mean?

I thought it was a fancy term for "Hall Monitor"
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2010, 10:12:22 am »
Maybe the Gene pool thing is a translation issue?



Memepool, more like it; amrite?
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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2010, 10:32:58 am »
I think what they really need, is a counterculture specifically designed to annoy their respective cultures.
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2010, 11:53:35 am »
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