Italy to ban plastic bags

[Epimetheus]

I would be okay with smoking being illegal in public except in permit-holding locations specifically for smokers.

[Jasper]

They could sell bubble head helmets that let smokers keep the smoke to themselves in polite company.

[Disco Pickle]

Here's the thing, dipshits:

You can just not smoke.

Yes, you CAN. It's not a natural process or a way of life, it's just an activity. Grow a fucking pair and quit whining like a bunch of sissies having their binky taken away. You can smoke and suck your wee little thumb at home if you want it that bad.

we should ban using your cellphone in your car while driving too.  That shit's dangerous to the rest of us who don't do it.

while we're at it, ban being intoxicated at all.  It's obvious that people who drink also drive (I never see a line of cabs long enough to take home everyone in any bar, ever)
and since they're putting people's lives at risk, there should be a one drink per hour limit and mandatory breathalizers at bars.

those people don't HAVE to drink and put me at risk by driving after.  They can just stay home and drink themselves silly.

</end being a dick>

[Triple Zero]

Oh, so smoking is no longer a choice?

It's one of the most addictive drugs known to mankind.  Yeah, it's a choice, just like abstaining from sex is a choice for people who are wired for homosexuality.

Wait, what? I'm not getting your analogy...

I think he means that homosexuals risk becoming sex-craved junkies if they suck on a few too many fags when they're young.

[AFK]

It seems logical that there are laws preventing you from drinking anywhere you'd like

It does?

Yeah.  Some examples of what I'd consider to be good no booze zones would be schools and day cares.  But I support drinking in public places, personally.  I don't see how it's a bad thing, and it just gives cops one more thing to bother homeless people about.

Well, here's the thing. There are plenty of people that get even more stupid than they normally are when drinking. Shocking, I know, but bear with me. Would you want these people out and about making big scenes at say, a park where kids are playing? Considering how the majority of people I know act when they go out for drinks, I certainly wouldn't.

Now, hold on.  There are already laws about public intoxication and disorderly conduct.  Are you saying that drinking in public should be banned for everyone because of the actions of a few?  


LMNO
-What Sig said.

Yeah, I have to agree with LMNO and Sig on this.  I think the public intoxication laws are sufficient to take care of the people in public who don't know when to say when.  Obviously it's a different ball of wax if we're talking about a minor drinking in public.  Though I think there are varying laws state to state, such as open container laws.  

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Here's the thing, dipshits:

You can just not smoke.

Yes, you CAN. It's not a natural process or a way of life, it's just an activity. Grow a fucking pair and quit whining like a bunch of sissies having their binky taken away. You can smoke and suck your wee little thumb at home if you want it that bad.

we should ban using your cellphone in your car while driving too.  That shit's dangerous to the rest of us who don't do it.

That's already illegal in many states, including Oregon.

[Disco Pickle]

Oh, so smoking is no longer a choice?

It's one of the most addictive drugs known to mankind.  Yeah, it's a choice, just like abstaining from sex is a choice for people who are wired for homosexuality.

Wait, what? I'm not getting your analogy...

I think he means that homosexuals risk becoming sex-craved junkies if they suck on a few too many fags when they're young.

[Epimetheus]

Here's the thing, dipshits:

You can just not smoke.

Yes, you CAN. It's not a natural process or a way of life, it's just an activity. Grow a fucking pair and quit whining like a bunch of sissies having their binky taken away. You can smoke and suck your wee little thumb at home if you want it that bad.

we should ban using your cellphone in your car while driving too.  That shit's dangerous to the rest of us who don't do it.

while we're at it, ban being intoxicated at all.  It's obvious that people who drink also drive (I never see a line of cabs long enough to take home everyone in any bar, ever)
and since they're putting people's lives at risk, there should be a one drink per hour limit and mandatory breathalizers at bars.

those people don't HAVE to drink and put me at risk by driving after.  They can just stay home and drink themselves silly.

</end being a dick>

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[AFK]

Here's the thing, dipshits:

You can just not smoke.

Yes, you CAN. It's not a natural process or a way of life, it's just an activity. Grow a fucking pair and quit whining like a bunch of sissies having their binky taken away. You can smoke and suck your wee little thumb at home if you want it that bad.

we should ban using your cellphone in your car while driving too.  That shit's dangerous to the rest of us who don't do it.

That actually is happening already in some states.  Most other states regulate it under distracted driving laws.  And I actually think that's a pretty good idea.  That shit can kill people just as dead as driving under the influence. 

[AFK]

Oh, so smoking is no longer a choice?

It's one of the most addictive drugs known to mankind.  Yeah, it's a choice, just like abstaining from sex is a choice for people who are wired for homosexuality.

Wait, what? I'm not getting your analogy...

I think he means that homosexuals risk becoming sex-craved junkies if they suck on a few too many fags when they're young.

  000 wins the thread. 

Here, have a cigar!

[Cramulus]

on the driving/phone note: have you guys seen the research on talking on the cell / texting while driving? ho ho ho holy shit it's comparably as dangerous as drunk driving! and Texting while driving gives you the reaction time of a 70 year old man. On AVERAGE you'll drive the length of a football field without having your eyes on the road.

Text messaging had the greatest relative risk, with drivers of heavy vehicles or trucks being more than 23 times more likely to experience a safety-critical event when texting. The study also found that drivers typically take their eyes off the forward roadway for an average of four out of six seconds when texting, and an average of 4.6 out of the six seconds surrounding safety-critical events. The study revealed that when traveling at 55 mph, a driver texting for 6 seconds is looking at the phone for 4.6 seconds of that time and travels the distance of a football field without their eyes on the road.

[Jasper]

Yeah, Dancing Pickle's analogy was ineffective because cell phone drivers are actually a severe risk.

[Triple Zero]

It's not like anyone who smokes always h as to stand 50 feet from the door outside. They only have to do that when they decide they want to have a smoke.

Wait, you have to stand 50 feet away from the entrance of a pub if you want to go outside and smoke in the USA?

That's retarded.

I mean, second hand smoke hazard when you're in a pub with lots of smokers, fine, but accidentally catching a whiff of smoke when you leave the bar is not going to harm anyone. That's really just needless fuckery. Probably thought up by people that merely dislike the smell. Which I think is only a valid argument in a restaurant, but you aren't allowed to smoke there anyway. Sure, they shouldn't clog up the entrance, but that's common sense, and if that happens, you make rules against that (a very simple rule like: Don't Clog Up The Entrance).

we should ban using your cellphone in your car while driving too.  That shit's dangerous to the rest of us who don't do it.

That actually is happening already in some states.  Most other states regulate it under distracted driving laws.  And I actually think that's a pretty good idea.  That shit can kill people just as dead as driving under the influence.  

Already illegal over here. Except the problem is, they're doing it wrong. Turns out driving is not more dangerous cause you hold a cell in one hand, but because you're being distracted by the conversation, and unlike somebody talking to you from a passenger's seat, the person on the other end of the phone can't tell if you need to pay attention to a busy intersection. Meaning that, yes, calling hands-free is almost just as dangerous.

... though texting while driving is worse oh Cram already said this. Except it's crazy they needed research for that. I mean it stands to reason you're being stupidly dangerous if you have to take your eyes off the road. Fuck, I even bump into things and people if I text while walking.

[Fujikoma]

I answer the phone to briefly yell at people when they call me while I'm driving, but that's only if they keep calling me when I don't pick up.

[Phox]

It seems logical that there are laws preventing you from drinking anywhere you'd like

It does?

Yeah.  Some examples of what I'd consider to be good no booze zones would be schools and day cares.  But I support drinking in public places, personally.  I don't see how it's a bad thing, and it just gives cops one more thing to bother homeless people about.

Well, here's the thing. There are plenty of people that get even more stupid than they normally are when drinking. Shocking, I know, but bear with me. Would you want these people out and about making big scenes at say, a park where kids are playing? Considering how the majority of people I know act when they go out for drinks, I certainly wouldn't.

Now, hold on.  There are already laws about public intoxication and disorderly conduct.  Are you saying that drinking in public should be banned for everyone because of the actions of a few?  


LMNO
-What Sig said.

It seems logical that there are laws preventing you from drinking anywhere you'd like

It does?

Yeah.  Some examples of what I'd consider to be good no booze zones would be schools and day cares.  But I support drinking in public places, personally.  I don't see how it's a bad thing, and it just gives cops one more thing to bother homeless people about.

Well, here's the thing. There are plenty of people that get even more stupid than they normally are when drinking. Shocking, I know, but bear with me. Would you want these people out and about making big scenes at say, a park where kids are playing? Considering how the majority of people I know act when they go out for drinks, I certainly wouldn't.

Now, hold on.  There are already laws about public intoxication and disorderly conduct.  Are you saying that drinking in public should be banned for everyone because of the actions of a few?  


LMNO
-What Sig said.

Yeah, I have to agree with LMNO and Sig on this.  I think the public intoxication laws are sufficient to take care of the people in public who don't know when to say when.  Obviously it's a different ball of wax if we're talking about a minor drinking in public.  Though I think there are varying laws state to state, such as open container laws.  

I wasn't advocating more laws than already exist, but I was positing my defense of why they are as they stand. I am reading Sig's comments as being against such laws, but I could be wrong on that.