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Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, January 12, 2011, 12:52:02 AM

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Damn. I just ass/u/med

LMNO

So, you're saying I live in a Junta?


¡VIVA LA RAZA!

the last yatto

Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

the last yatto

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on January 12, 2011, 09:03:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 12, 2011, 08:55:27 PM
Quote from: maphdet on January 12, 2011, 08:52:42 PM
Could someone please explain the following quote from the code? (the part I bold-ed, specifically)

"-CITE-
    18 USC Sec. 2383                                            02/01/2010

-EXPCITE-
    TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
    PART I - CRIMES
    CHAPTER 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES

-HEAD-
    Sec. 2383. Rebellion or insurrection

-STATUTE-
      Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any
    rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United
    States or the laws thereof,
or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall
    be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or
    both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United
    States."


Because I think I am understanding it in a (hopefully) wrong way.

If you aid in anyway an armed rebellion against federal authority and representatives thereof you're barred from running for office and go to jail for ten years?

I'm not sure it even has to be armed rebellion to qualify with that wording.

Like acts of mass disobedience...
My guess is they would want to use on people fighting for illegals rights
Heck maybe even wikileaks, that will teach those bastards at the aclu

maybe target hippies if they keep up their anti war rhetoric ?
Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

BadBeast

There's no sport, or kudos in beating on Hippys. Also they wouldn't get antsy enough to justify getting the super-frozen brine cannons out.
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Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

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the last yatto

Depends if they keep voting out pro war dems out of the primaries
Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

Disco Pickle

I mean that operating behind the scenes as a financier or organizer of any group large enough to challenge "dur lawr" could be charged under this as broad as it's written.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on January 15, 2011, 03:30:13 AM
I mean that operating behind the scenes as a financier or organizer of any group large enough to challenge "dur lawr" could be charged under this as broad as it's written.

Shocking, isn't it?   :lulz:
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- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Disco Pickle

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 15, 2011, 03:45:30 AM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on January 15, 2011, 03:30:13 AM
I mean that operating behind the scenes as a financier or organizer of any group large enough to challenge "dur lawr" could be charged under this as broad as it's written.

Shocking, isn't it?   :lulz:

only that it hasn't been used more often.    not that is necessarily a good thing.  just surprising.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on January 15, 2011, 04:21:08 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 15, 2011, 03:45:30 AM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on January 15, 2011, 03:30:13 AM
I mean that operating behind the scenes as a financier or organizer of any group large enough to challenge "dur lawr" could be charged under this as broad as it's written.

Shocking, isn't it?   :lulz:

only that it hasn't been used more often.    not that is necessarily a good thing.  just surprising.

Expect that to change.  Brinksmanship:  It's your pal!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Triple Zero

The thing is, why they may have the legal right to use such laws, it pays not to use the worst ones until it's absolutely necessary. Otherwise people will be like "Hey wait a minute, that's not right!", instead you need to turn up the ridiculousness of the enforced laws very slowly, even if they're already written and you'd have the right, turn up the heat very slowly, like that story about cooking a frog or a lobster.
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Adios

Quote from: Triple Zero on January 15, 2011, 05:13:13 PM
The thing is, why they may have the legal right to use such laws, it pays not to use the worst ones until it's absolutely necessary. Otherwise people will be like "Hey wait a minute, that's not right!", instead you need to turn up the ridiculousness of the enforced laws very slowly, even if they're already written and you'd have the right, turn up the heat very slowly, like that story about cooking a frog or a lobster.

Just like the Patriot Act. Right? oops, no rights.

Triple Zero

The Patriot Act was named that way because, in order to get away with it, they had to put up a huge patriot act, right?
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e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Adios

Quote from: Triple Zero on January 15, 2011, 05:19:08 PM
The Patriot Act was named that way because, in order to get away with it, they had to put up a huge patriot act, right?

NEWSFEED

E.O.T.

Quote from: Nigel on January 12, 2011, 02:13:53 AM
Annnnd http://www.theskanner.com/article/2011/01/11/Legal-Precedents-for-Political-Incitement-Set-in-Portland

Quote
Gabrielle Giffords, Sarah Palin, Mulugeta Seraw, Tom Metzger, Dr. George Tiller, "The Nuremberg Files" -- it is a strange coincidence that two of the biggest civil cases in America against virulent conservative rhetoric – incidents that involved politically-motivated murders – were tried in Portland courtrooms.

In 2002, anti-choice activists who had created a "wanted" poster-style website listing abortion providers with gun sights over their faces were found liable for damages because the site constituted "a true threat," and not protected First Amendment speech.

And in 1988, White supremacist leader Tom Metzger and his son, John, were found guilty of "organizing" and inciting the fatal skinhead beating of Portland resident Mulugeta Seraw.

Gee, looks like legal precedent has been set.


That Metzger case is a sham
"a good fight justifies any cause"